I am so confused about the trailer camera options

[Frank]

I kind of feel like that too. If I am ever backing one, someone will be there to guide anyways. The only time I could see it useful is if you are backing up a little bit at the gas station or something and want to make sure no one is behind you.

Trust me, they will move. If they are hanging out 3 ft behind a trailer at a pump they deserve whatever comes their way.

I like the cargo camera and backup camera a lot, especially being able to check on things while driving. I also love the top down camera view which requires you get em all except the trailer cam. I've backed into some VERY tight spaces with a trailer. For me, I know where to put the trailer the issue is how far out can I turn the truck without scraping this tree?

On the topic of backing a TT, skip the technology. When you get to camp, pull to the side of the road your site is on. Then pull past the site and put the truck on the opposite side of the road so the trailer is angled a bit towards your site. Get out, look at things. and drop a couple sticks on the path you need the trailer axles to take, to the inside of where you are turning. If you are real fancy you can use those bright orange jack pads you will be buying for the trailer. Now just back her up, and turn the wheel more less so you are hitting your marks. If you have a really bad site with obstacles on the outside of your turn, have your spotter over there just for that purpose and to make sure your slideouts clear it. People on the internet like to make a big deal out of how hard it is to back a TT, how much they argued with their spouse during it, yadda yadda yadda. It's not. It gets easier the longer you go. Your average bass boat is more difficult. If it was half as hard as some of these people make it out to be, they shouldn't own a TT. Practice this technique for 30 minutes in an empty parking lot with cones and you will be a champ.

 

[jm888]

Trust me, they will move. If they are hanging out 3 ft behind a trailer at a pump they deserve whatever comes their way.

I like the cargo camera and backup camera a lot, especially being able to check on things while driving. I also love the top down camera view which requires you get em all except the trailer cam. I've backed into some VERY tight spaces with a trailer. For me, I know where to put the trailer the issue is how far out can I turn the truck without scraping this tree?

On the topic of backing a TT, skip the technology. When you get to camp, pull to the side of the road your site is on. Then pull past the site and put the truck on the opposite side of the road so the trailer is angled a bit towards your site. Get out, look at things. and drop a couple sticks on the path you need the trailer axles to take, to the inside of where you are turning. If you are real fancy you can use those bright orange jack pads you will be buying for the trailer. Now just back her up, and turn the wheel more less so you are hitting your marks. If you have a really bad site with obstacles on the outside of your turn, have your spotter over there just for that purpose and to make sure your slideouts clear it. People on the internet like to make a big deal out of how hard it is to back a TT, how much they argued with their spouse during it, yadda yadda yadda. It's not. It gets easier the longer you go. Your average bass boat is more difficult. If it was half as hard as some of these people make it out to be, they shouldn't own a TT. Practice this technique for 30 minutes in an empty parking lot with cones and you will be a champ.

Now if it shows the front of the truck, that does sound useful, because as you said that is usually the issue where the front of the truck will swing. It sounds like I have been doing it right because I swing out the way you said with my small trailer now. Everyone says backing a bigger trailer is easier and although the biggest thing I have backed is about a 24' boat, the hardest thing I have had to back is a jet ski because it goes all over the place! I guess I should look forward to getting a 30' travel trailer as it will probably be even easier, minus the front end truck swing.

 

[Frank]

Now if it shows the front of the truck, that does sound useful, because as you said that is usually the issue where the front of the truck will swing. It sounds like I have been doing it right because I swing out the way you said with my small trailer now. Everyone says backing a bigger trailer is easier and although the biggest thing I have backed is about a 24' boat, the hardest thing I have had to back is a jet ski because it goes all over the place! I guess I should look forward to getting a 30' travel trailer as it will probably be even easier, minus the front end truck swing.

It's a bird's eye view of the whole truck patched together from the cameras. With a second window next to it (at least on the 12" screen) that can show the front grill in regular or wide angle. I have surround view pinned to the bottom of the screen, it's the most often used button in my truck. The TT will be easier due to length, but it will also be easier because you don't have a long straightaway like you do at a boat ramp. I've pulled and launched literally a hundred different boats when I worked in the industry and my 16 ft knock around fishing boat still gives me fits sometimes. The only issue I ever had with the camper was my old half ton not having enough power for good throttle response while backing, never an issue with the CTD.

 

[Brutal_HO]

Trailer surround view has been announced for the 2022 trucks... There's a post here about it.

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[tacoready]

Trust me, they will move. If they are hanging out 3 ft behind a trailer at a pump they deserve whatever comes their way.

I like the cargo camera and backup camera a lot, especially being able to check on things while driving. I also love the top down camera view which requires you get em all except the trailer cam. I've backed into some VERY tight spaces with a trailer. For me, I know where to put the trailer the issue is how far out can I turn the truck without scraping this tree?

On the topic of backing a TT, skip the technology. When you get to camp, pull to the side of the road your site is on. Then pull past the site and put the truck on the opposite side of the road so the trailer is angled a bit towards your site. Get out, look at things. and drop a couple sticks on the path you need the trailer axles to take, to the inside of where you are turning. If you are real fancy you can use those bright orange jack pads you will be buying for the trailer. Now just back her up, and turn the wheel more less so you are hitting your marks. If you have a really bad site with obstacles on the outside of your turn, have your spotter over there just for that purpose and to make sure your slideouts clear it. People on the internet like to make a big deal out of how hard it is to back a TT, how much they argued with their spouse during it, yadda yadda yadda. It's not. It gets easier the longer you go. Your average bass boat is more difficult. If it was half as hard as some of these people make it out to be, they shouldn't own a TT. Practice this technique for 30 minutes in an empty parking lot with cones and you will be a champ.

Sorry for the late reply but wanted to thank you for this tip. We have experience backing boats together and have our hand signals figured out. Marriage is intact. This trailer backing is just weird when you first try it but I'm confident in the captain. He liked the idea of marking the path. Thanks!

 

[BigRamfan]

All trucks wired with a trailer tow prep have a 7-pin/4-pin for trailer connections. Lights, + brakes and power on the 7-pin (also provides a reverse light pin).

Aux Trailer Camera prep uses a 7-pin/12-pin. The 12-pin is for the Trailer camera option. The truck comes with a 7-pin to 4-pin adapter for trailer lights if needed.

The trailer prep is the TRUCK side. Hooks UConnect AUX1 and AUX2 cameras to the 12-pin at the bumper + bed for 5th wheel prep trucks.

@jm888 The RV industry "camera prep" is simply a housing and power for a Furrion wireless camera.

Without lots of aftermarket parts, you wouldn't be able to use an off the shelf wireless camera with the factory camera prep or Uconnect screen- it's a wired system.

Thank you for this excellent answer. I have a Ram 3500 Megacab on order and had the same question regarding the Ram camera prep system. I did order the auxiliary trailer prep package just to be on the safe side. My current fifth wheel has a Furrion wireless camera system, it works ok but would be much nicer not to have an additional video screen on the dash .

 

[3500guy]

For me having the wired cam on the back of the 5th wheel and the digital rear view through the mirror was the cats ass. It took a couple of hours to run and secure the hard wire coax under the trailer but was worth the effort. I've had some issues with loosing the camera view while traveling usually about an hour into the trip. Toggle the mirror switch between normal view and digital and it comes back on again. Dealer replaced the plug at the bumper which turned out not to be the issue. They supplied me with a new coax cable which I installed yesterday. Fingers crossed that corrects the problem.

 

[Randy Stickrod]

Hello all! Newby here. We have a ’22 Ram 3500 and purchased the trailer rear view camera option. We had issues with the camera system the other day. When we unplugged the cable, the pin came out of the receptacle on the bumper. Can this be repaired? If not, I need to replace the part on the bumper. Does anyone know the part number of what I need?

 

[Brewmark]

Randy,
Mopar P/N: 68508681AA
I had to order one as mine was intermittent and trying ti fix that ,I broke the middle pin. Ordered one a ND it has worked perfectly since. Well it doesn't always switch automatically when connected. Easy to tell mirror to go to trailer camera though.

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[Brewmark]

Hello all! Newby here. We have a ’22 Ram 3500 and purchased the trailer rear view camera option. We had issues with the camera system the other day. When we unplugged the cable, the pin came out of the receptacle on the bumper. Can this be repaired? If not, I need to replace the part on the bumper. Does anyone know the part number of what I need?

Randy,
Mopar P/N: 68508681AA
I had to order one as mine was intermittent and trying ti fix that ,I broke the middle pin. Ordered one and it has worked perfectly since. No intemitancy.
Well it doesn't always switch automatically when connected. Easy to tell mirror to go to trailer camera though.

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[IdahoPackerBacker]

Are there aftermarket cameras that will work with the 12 pin aux trailer wiring kit (XFQ option)?

 

[Brutal_HO]

Are there aftermarket cameras that will work with the 12 pin aux trailer wiring kit (XFQ option)?

Any analog camera will work on AUX2 on 20-22*
Also AUX1 on 20, 21.
I believe 22 with surround requires the trailer surround CVPM.

However, you will need to build a custom harness.

Only the digital cameras require OEM.

 

[Oldmanbs]

Even after reading some of the threads here, I am still confused. I am going to order a truck and will be getting a travel trailer in the next year or two. It looks like all of the new travel trailers have a spot for a camera in the back and prewired for it. I don't really know how that works, but it sounds like most people get a Furion camera with a separate monitor. Can someone explain in simple terms how it would work with the screen in a Ram? I know they offer the trailer camera prep wiring for like $500, but then do you have to buy the Mopar camera and run a wire all the way from the back of the trailer and plug it into the truck? So are the only options for a trailer camera to either have wireless with a separate monitor or wired with the truck's screen? The only reason I am worrying about this now is to see if I am going to regret not adding on the trailer camera wiring option but then if I have to buy a camera anyways, it is not something that would be used that often anyways, so maybe it is not even worth it.

Yes you have to purchase their kits if you want it to be shown on your screen unless you buy Brand-motion branded product then it will patch into your display but you will have to run included wiring from your dash to the rear of the trailer, the camera kits from 2022 RAM HD trucks will in thru your factory camera plugs the Facra connection on the back of those trucks goes into the rear view mirror and the 12 pin connector goes to the radio. I have a 2024 RAM 3500 limited.

 

[Brutal_HO]

Winner of the Zombie thread of the year post.

 

[dblackwell]

For me having the wired cam on the back of the 5th wheel and the digital rear view through the mirror was the cats ass. It took a couple of hours to run and secure the hard wire coax under the trailer but was worth the effort. I've had some issues with loosing the camera view while traveling usually about an hour into the trip. Toggle the mirror switch between normal view and digital and it comes back on again. Dealer replaced the plug at the bumper which turned out not to be the issue. They supplied me with a new coax cable which I installed yesterday. Fingers crossed that corrects the problem.

How did you run the wire up the back of your camper? Just in plain view? My TT has the furrion that it came with and I mounted the screen in the bullet proof mount, but I have a new truck in order and it has the digital rearview mirror and the prep for the wired camera. I thought about ordering the camera and mounting it, but wasn’t sure how to mount it. I wondered if there was a way to mount it to the plate for the furrion camera mount but not sure how the wiring would go up the back of the camper and not look like crap…. One thing I will say about the furrion is it has a mic so I can hear my wife as I back into a spot. I don’t think the Mopar camera has a mic.

 

[Brutal_HO]

How did you run the wire up the back of your camper? Just in plain view? My TT has the furrion that it came with and I mounted the screen in the bullet proof mount, but I have a new truck in order and it has the digital rearview mirror and the prep for the wired camera. I thought about ordering the camera and mounting it, but wasn’t sure how to mount it. I wondered if there was a way to mount it to the plate for the furrion camera mount but not sure how the wiring would go up the back of the camper and not look like crap…. One thing I will say about the furrion is it has a mic so I can hear my wife as I back into a spot. I don’t think the Mopar camera has a mic.

I think all those Furrion "powered" pre-installs use power coming from inside the trailer so the panel has already been pierced. Mine was in the rear upper cabinet. Passing wire through the wall vertically from frame to roof was impossible due to cross-section aluminum framing.

I drilled a few strategic holes and fished a cable up from the bottom, through the cabinets and part of the inside wall core up into the upper cabinets.

YMMV.

 

[GeraldRain]

Yes you have to purchase their kits if you want it to be shown on your screen unless you buy Brand-motion branded product then it will patch into your display but you will have to run included wiring from your dash to the rear of the trailer, the camera kits from 2022 RAM HD trucks will in thru your factory camera plugs the Facra connection on the back of those trucks goes into the rear view mirror and the 12 pin connector goes to the radio. I have a 2024 RAM 3500 limited.

It's confusing indeed. We have a Northern Lite 10.2 loaded onto our 2025 Ram 3500 Bighorn, dually, crew, Hemi. We have the digital rearview mirror—amazing. The package (Wire, camera, and misc. parts) to put the rearview camera on the back of our slide-in Camper is included, but there is about 50 feet of wire length; we need about 12 feet to 15 feet maximum. Is there an option to buy a shorter wire? We also have the 12 pin plug on the bumper, assuming for the surround view. Does this plug essentially replace the camera on the tailgate handle ? No extra parts for it. What would I order to place the camera on the back of the slide-in Camper along side the rr mirror camera < Once again, only 12 to 15 feet of wire needed. Any additional thoughts on placement and installation tips on the Camper would be much appreciated.

 

[dieselscout80]

Double post

 

[dieselscout80]

Any analog camera will work on AUX2 on 20-22*
Also AUX1 on 20, 21.
I believe 22 with surround requires the trailer surround CVPM.

However, you will need to build a custom harness.

Only the digital cameras require OEM.

I just noticed your post.

First off I have a 2020 Ram with the 8.4 without navigation.

I’m wondering if based on your post if I could add two additional cameras (one for bed cargo another to view behind the trailer) using analog cameras.

I would think I would need custom wiring harness(s) and JScan to enable them is that correct?