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Great point. This was the exact reason I did not go with the HO...
I think the people who find pedal lag a big issue are people not used to an hd vehicle…. That and with the tq management it means a long life for the trans
I'm all for long life out of my trans! Having just shifted into 2nd at low revs, I didn't expect much response in that situation.
Thanks for the great feedback! It’s post like this that make want to just go HO and forget about it.
I have had a similar experience. Really liking the truck
If you want a quick response, keep your RPM's over 1500 in any gear your in. The transmissions are programed to run as low of RPM as possible, for fuel economy. T/H helps, but then you have harsh down shifts. I keep 5th and 6th locked out while driving the city, and if I encounter a stretch of road where 55 MPH is necessary, then I'll unlock 5th.
Great post and review AEV. I really appreciate your feedback and you are right that I really need to get my butt behind the wheel of both. Like everything else, it all personal preference.I found it very difficult to read between the lines on forum posts about this topic. Going off of what I read alone.. I was about to pull the trigger on a HO/AISIN truck. Thankfully I got wise and made the drive to find both variants and test drive them... wow was I ever glad I did. Drive the new generation truck of each variant and the difference is stark. I drive a little more spiritidly than others and enjoy letting the big girl Cummins eat from time to time.. I felt like I was being managed more than driving in the HO/AISIN.. yes it had power but actually not as much as I thought it would feel. This was a 21' with 420hp/1075lbft of tq.. I have read that the truck limits power for longevity sake and knows when there is a load on it which will then compute and provide additional grunt.. hence why I believe so many dually owners love it as the truck always gives a little more grunt knowing there is more to pull. Now when I got in the SO/68rfe, it was like meeting an old friend.. very fast to respond and I had no problem or notice with shifting oddly or hesitation when driving. In other words.. the AISIN felt as many people say like a commercial bus, there is nothing wrong with it but you know you are not going to be in a hurry anywhere you go without having to ignore some of the odd hesitation or ''breaks'' the AISIN defueling forces on you. The AISIN is tried and true for stock application and will serve you a long time in that regard. However.. if you plan on modifying at all or like to live a little from time to time when you drive unloaded then the 68rfe is ready and willing to stay in the background and be out of mind, just letting you enjoy the power you asked for when you asked for it. Do yourself the favor I did and drive both as back to back as possible and you will know very quickly. As stated above as well the 68rfe has gotten much better and there is a TON of aftermarket support for it if you ever want to do a mid-life refresh of it down the road
My exact experience with my 2021 3500 SO. No dead pedal. However the wife's Honda pilot still takes off quicker....
I drove both back to back last week and the HO was much smoother and quicker on pickup. The difference was definitely there. Thanks for the explanation though. Makes perfect sense. Cheers.I found it very difficult to read between the lines on forum posts about this topic. Going off of what I read alone.. I was about to pull the trigger on a HO/AISIN truck. Thankfully I got wise and made the drive to find both variants and test drive them... wow was I ever glad I did. Drive the new generation truck of each variant and the difference is stark. I drive a little more spiritidly than others and enjoy letting the big girl Cummins eat from time to time.. I felt like I was being managed more than driving in the HO/AISIN.. yes it had power but actually not as much as I thought it would feel. This was a 21' with 420hp/1075lbft of tq.. I have read that the truck limits power for longevity sake and knows when there is a load on it which will then compute and provide additional grunt.. hence why I believe so many dually owners love it as the truck always gives a little more grunt knowing there is more to pull. Now when I got in the SO/68rfe, it was like meeting an old friend.. very fast to respond and I had no problem or notice with shifting oddly or hesitation when driving. In other words.. the AISIN felt as many people say like a commercial bus, there is nothing wrong with it but you know you are not going to be in a hurry anywhere you go without having to ignore some of the odd hesitation or ''breaks'' the AISIN defueling forces on you. The AISIN is tried and true for stock application and will serve you a long time in that regard. However.. if you plan on modifying at all or like to live a little from time to time when you drive unloaded then the 68rfe is ready and willing to stay in the background and be out of mind, just letting you enjoy the power you asked for when you asked for it. Do yourself the favor I did and drive both as back to back as possible and you will know very quickly. As stated above as well the 68rfe has gotten much better and there is a TON of aftermarket support for it if you ever want to do a mid-life refresh of it down the road
