"LOL. I think you moved a decimal". Yeah . . . nope . . . it wasn't 800%. It was more like 88.3% in
my truck. I can't account for another generation's air horn (like the video suggests). I don't doubt that test you posted either; I just don't think Banks cares about a product they stopped supporting when Bush was still in office. I love it when haters use irrelevant info to make an argument. In actuality, in that video, both the Banks and the stock intake look similar. The one I installed . . . not so much.
A site for non-haters for educational purposes.
The Banks Monster-Ram improves throttle response and fuel economy by eliminating airflow restrictions. By replacing the failure-prone factory grid heater with the included Banks high-flow billet intake plate, severe engine damage is prevented. Monster-Ram is the only 50-state emissions-compliant...
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Coupled with the fact that air had to flow through those soot covered fins the engine was choked. The outflow (at the flange) area of the replacement is almost three times the area. I know that Banks did some testing on the air horn. It is their data. That data can be skewed to benefit them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. The next best competitor cost $600. I got my Banks system at the military discount of 10% off the list price of about $900 (price at the time). So, I dropped a little more than $800. But this included the replacement plate (pictured below) and new heater element. The new element looks like a very heavy spring (pictured below, it is about 1/4 diameter spring steel) that screws into the port shown in the flange opening of the air horn above (the plug). So, $200 for that plate and the new heater, was chump change to me. This made the cost a wash. Exceptional machining and manufacturing on all parts. The finish was perfect, both their powdercoating and anodizing. Interesting though, ALL of the other intakes on the market reuse the stock heater plate. For me, that fixes nothing. Remember that Banks info is compelling enough to win a multi-million-dollar contract from the government. This is fact. Maybe that had a little to do with me being pro-Banks. I don't know.
For the record, two things: 1) FANBOY - I take that as a compliment, and I appreciate it. You can make it my nickname; I don't give a crap. Nothing you say, joke, ridicule, poke, jab, or offend will change that. I am only telling you what I know. I drive the truck at least 70 miles per day. I smile thinking about the haters that know very little but profess to be intellects in matters where they are obvious simpletons. I admit that I am a novice. I can spit info on what I have installed which is based on what I have read and researched on everything that I could get info on. I am not sitting on a pinnacle shouting this is the best thing, only that it is what I chose to put on my truck and that it exceeded my expectations. If you chose a different route, tell me what it is and how it is treating you. With what I have done? Take it or leave it. 2) I have already established that I didn't do this for POWER, which is all anyone that have responded with hate can reference. I did it because of that grid bolt worry. Period. This is the only system that has an answer. A Siemens nuclear millwright that I used to work with experienced the bolt breaking off, falling down the intake, rolling to the back of the intake, landing in cylinder 6, and taking out his engine . . . in the middle of nowhere . . . towing his 5th wheel. A colossal goatfuk. Not only was it a nightmare to get help, but no warranty meant it cost him. I don't know, can someone tell me the cost of a 6.7 Cummins? My truck at the time was newer, but I took no time in getting that heater plate out of my engine bay. I just rely on my truck too much to have this happen. Hope for the best, plan for the worst. So, the real reason for my expenditures (stated a second time for slow learners) renders everyone's point moot.
Flow, power, mud, your amusement, blah, blah, blah, I didn't hear a word you said. Can't hurt my feelings, I don't have any. Marriage will do that to you. Like I stated in an earlier post, the added power (meaning seat of pants acceleration, push you back into your seat, throttle response, faster spool up, etc.) was a bonus. Numbers above prove, (with info, not conjecture) that it flows better. The math works. I'll admit, it is marketing info to sell a product. But here is the kicker . . . not one competitor has refuted it. Not. One. The silence is loud as fuk. Hate all you want. Hell, I only posted when someone experienced the exact same problem I had. I went through an ordeal to arrive at a simple fix. Then it happened to a second person, and voila!! We got his problem fixed and it took only him a few minutes!! I only hope I helped the first guy who asked for insight. This is the reason why I go to these sites. More to get help, but to offer it when I have it. For instance, the installation of the puck system. I have a simple way. I morphed it from someone else's method, but I made it simple. Without posts of substance, I would be left up to instructions that was seemingly written by a drunk Chinese adolescent.
Let's see . . . what other BS that was spewed . . . Oh yeah, head flow numbers . . . you have to remember to multiply the flow rate by the number of cylinders the engine has to. The number offered was 150 cfm per cylinder. I appreciate it when those who are trying to ridicule me actually make my point. The flow numbers for a stock head are between 150-170 cfm/cylinder. So, the head flows about 900 cfm or better. I am not sure where the 1008 cfm flow number came from, but Banks actually flows at 936 cfm. This puts the flow for the air horn and the head in concert. I added the boost tubes because they are a little shorter, bigger in diameter (less parasitic drag). They effectively took out elbows which is death to fluid dynamics. Does it matter? By itself, probably not, but as a system, eh maybe. Just so you know, the AFE offering for boost tubes cost more . . . just in case you want to hate on that too. Since Banks isn't the only player making aftermarket tubes, there must be something to it . . . don't ya think? Hell, what do I know, you are the authority . . . right?
So, other spewed, and worthless crap for amusement . . . stock looking truck, no stickers, stock size tires, rides like a whore on meth . . . unless I am pulling a trailer. If you had all the banks stuff on this generation truck, and you didn't feel any change . . . I'll take you for a ride in mine.
Everyone, and I mean everyone, unsolicited, asks what I have done to it. That may mean something to anyone other than haters. Let's see . . . I don't go off-roading; I never seek the mud or those conditions. I don't see playing in the mud as fun. It doesn't make me money. I have friends that do, more power to them. I prefer clean. I was only making a point about the open part of my cold air intake. You blew it out of proportion and took it out of context. Childish, probably, but I got a laugh out of it too since you are trying to change the dialog. You see, I don't care how you see things or take things. Offer information that I can use . . . something of substance. Be abusive, I don't give a crap about that either; that is noise, I don't hear it. What you have to offer, I'll take it under advisement, maybe I'll use it. Or don't, I still don't give a crap. I'll still offer my help where I know something or can offer my experiences to those that can use it. I am not a liar, nor will I mislead. My truck is a tool that I use for work . . . sometimes the campgrounds have unimproved roads where some of those mud puddles were deep, maybe not deep for you, but I am towing a 36' camper. Mud halfway up the tires in that situation is deep for me. It has happened more times than I care to brag about. Not necessarily mud all the time, but gravel, dust, dirt, and all versions of water that you will find on industrial construction sites in various depths and consistencies. And to my point, my intake was dry, is dry, stays dry . . . gets dusty type of dirty but that is why you can clean it and move on. But let's not fool ourselves by comparing your mudder beast to how I use my truck. Again, apples to apples.
I rather enjoy this banter.
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