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Good evening, I just joined the site. I recently bought a 2021 limited longhorn megacab with a 6.7. My first new big purchase of this sort.

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I was very excited for my new purchase until my brother in law who owns a 2020 Denali 2500 duramax asked to compare our payloads. I was crushed his payload capacity was a little over 3100 lbs and mine was at 1,900 lbs. talk about a big discrepancy. How did that happen? High end vs high end and crushed.
 

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Congrats on the truck and welcome to HDRams.

Sorry you got caught up in it, but it's pretty well known that the Cummins 2500 trucks don't have a large payload to begin with and you add on the full boat Limited/longhorn trim and there goes more payload. The Cummins is 600-700 lbs heavier than the Hemi. If you have an HO (only available on 3500), the whole package - engine/trans/xfr case is around 1,000lb more.

The D-max probably also has the larger GVWR that GM offers. Not one single difference in the trucks for the 10K GVWR vs 11400(?) GVWR, it's just a door tag. Ram has been slow to offer the same.

Compare the 3500 trucks and they're too close to call. My 2020 Limited CCLB HO is 3700 payload and 25K towing. The HO Cummins is also rated to tow more than the Dmax.

More importantly, what are you towing and is the 1900 payload an issue? You can always add airlift bags for more capacity (but that doesn't change the sticker). The truck is more than capable of handling it.
 
It’s a truck .....LOAD IT AND DRIVE IT! It can’t read numbers.
I couldn't agree more. I don't overwork my trucks but I also don't pay attention to numbers. I look at how much the truck and tires are squatting.

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While the below article is from 2014 the points made are important as the industry struggles with how to spec and market product.

What Is SAE J2807? What Does It Really Mean For Your Pickup Truck?

"The maximum-claimed towing capacity of most pickup trucks is bullsh*t. Those numbers are created by manufacturers and vetted by no one. The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) wants to change that, with a standard test for measuring truck towing capacity called "J2807."

The standard was written 2008, revised in 2010, and adopted by Toyota in 2013. Every other automaker who sells trucks in the US was "totally going to start using it," but nobody wanted to be first because they all knew the SAE max would be lower than the numbers they could cook up under their own testing conditions.

Here are the main test methods trucks would be measured on as per J2807:.........."
 
Nice Mega. That extra room in that Mega is nicer than that door sticker on the DMax. Many of us wish Ram would offer us the choice to have the upgraded sticker on the door,
 
Congrats on the truck and welcome to HDRams.

Sorry you got caught up in it, but it's pretty well known that the Cummins 2500 trucks don't have a large payload to begin with and you add on the full boat Limited/longhorn trim and there goes more payload. The Cummins is 600-700 lbs heavier than the Hemi. If you have an HO (only available on 3500), the whole package - engine/trans/xfr case is around 1,000lb more.

The D-max probably also has the larger GVWR that GM offers. Not one single difference in the trucks for the 10K GVWR vs 11400(?) GVWR, it's just a door tag. Ram has been slow to offer the same.

Compare the 3500 trucks and they're too close to call. My 2020 Limited CCLB HO is 3700 payload and 25K towing. The HO Cummins is also rated to tow more than the Dmax.

More importantly, what are you towing and is the 1900 payload an issue? You can always add airlift bags for more capacity (but that doesn't change the sticker). The truck is more than capable of handling it.
Thank you very much. I appreciate all the info. I love my new Ram. guess the better option would have been like yours a 3500 single axle . And paying attention to the payload capacity.... still Learning though. I am planning on retiring in about 4 yrs and had my sights on a 5th wheel. I may have
to stick to a TT Instead or trade up in the future (3500) hahaha. Might give me a good excuse and convince the wife!
thanks Brutal_HO
 
Congrats on the truck and welcome to HDRams.

Sorry you got caught up in it, but it's pretty well known that the Cummins 2500 trucks don't have a large payload to begin with and you add on the full boat Limited/longhorn trim and there goes more payload. The Cummins is 600-700 lbs heavier than the Hemi. If you have an HO (only available on 3500), the whole package - engine/trans/xfr case is around 1,000lb more.

The D-max probably also has the larger GVWR that GM offers. Not one single difference in the trucks for the 10K GVWR vs 11400(?) GVWR, it's just a door tag. Ram has been slow to offer the same.

Compare the 3500 trucks and they're too close to call. My 2020 Limited CCLB HO is 3700 payload and 25K towing. The HO Cummins is also rated to tow more than the Dmax.

More importantly, what are you towing and is the 1900 payload an issue? You can always add airlift bags for more capacity (but that doesn't change the sticker). The truck is more than capable of handling it.
Thank you very much. I appreciate all the info. I love my new Ram. guess the better option would have been like yours a 3500 single axle . And paying attention to the payload capacity.... still Learning though. I am planning on retiring in about 4 yrs and had my sights on a 5th wheel. I may have
to stick to a TT Instead or trade up in the future (3500) hahaha. Might give me a good excuse and convince the wife!
 
Thank you very much. I appreciate all the info. I love my new Ram. guess the better option would have been like yours a 3500 single axle . And paying attention to the payload capacity.... still Learning though. I am planning on retiring in about 4 yrs and had my sights on a 5th wheel. I may have
to stick to a TT Instead or trade up in the future (3500) hahaha. Might give me a good excuse and convince the wife!

When the 5th gen cab hits, and maybe an 8 speed behind the mighty Cummins, everyone will want a new one...
 
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