Front free wheeling hubs

[akguy09]

Ford does it. Tremor and Raptor, at the least, offer a transfer case that has both mechanical locking and clutch locking capability so you can run either auto locking or fully locked. Not sure if it's an option on the other trims.

Only on the F150 Tremor, Ram used to offer a similar feature on 1500’s and Durangos….I don’t think heavy duty applications are suitable for this technology

 

[jetrinka]

Only on the F150 Tremor, Ram used to offer a similar feature on 1500’s and Durangos….I don’t think heavy duty applications are suitable for this technology

I saw a Maverick Tremor the other day and actually laughed out loud

 

[el_barto]

You guys are missing my point; when in 2wd, it's most efficient (and causes the least wear) to totally disconnect the front axle parts...

I'll throw one more at you; how about removing the CAD and keeping the existing hubs, BUT, then give me FULL-TIME 4wd, with a center diff? My Ram is bone-stock and will easily spin the rear tires on dry pavement, due to the torquey motor and poor weight bias of approx. 38% rear and 62% front (when empty)...

Full time 4WD/AWD is so much better in the winter than part time.

Ended up buying a Grand Cherokee for daily driving /winter driving. It’s full time 4WD/awd so no binding in parking lots, no need to think about switching between 2 and 4 in variable road conditions. Nearly 50/50 weight distribution. Much better handling. Smaller size / easier to drive.

 

[johanh13]

I wonder how long the added "efficiency" would need to be in effect for me to recoup the cost of one of those kits....

I'll take the current setup any day of the week. Its simple, easy to fix, low maintenance and it just plain works. In fact I'd go the opposite direction and say if there was ever a delete for the CAD like on my 2nd gen I'd install that in a heartbeat. In my diesel 2nd gen I didn't notice a lick of difference with the CAD deleted.

Yes, you can delete the CAD, it comes at a price though. I really like the idea of, now if I could just find some spare cash!

Ultimate AAM 9.25 CV Axle Set for Dodge Ram 2500/3500 ('14-Up) with Disconnect

RCV Performance Ultimate CV Axles simply replace your weak Dodge Ram 2500/3500's AAM 9.25 U-joint axle shafts with a high-strength constant velocity design. Tests prove Ultimate CV Axles to be twice as strong as OEM axle shafts, and they're just as tough at a straight angle as they are at...

www.rcvperformance.com

 

[jetrinka]

Yes, you can delete the CAD, it comes at a price though. I really like the idea of, now if I could just fine some spare cash!

Ultimate AAM 9.25 CV Axle Set for Dodge Ram 2500/3500 ('14-Up) with Disconnect

RCV Performance Ultimate CV Axles simply replace your weak Dodge Ram 2500/3500's AAM 9.25 U-joint axle shafts with a high-strength constant velocity design. Tests prove Ultimate CV Axles to be twice as strong as OEM axle shafts, and they're just as tough at a straight angle as they are at...

www.rcvperformance.com

Ouch that cost is brutal

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Yes, you can delete the CAD, it comes at a price though. I really like the idea of, now if I could just fine some spare cash!

Ultimate AAM 9.25 CV Axle Set for Dodge Ram 2500/3500 ('14-Up) with Disconnect

RCV Performance Ultimate CV Axles simply replace your weak Dodge Ram 2500/3500's AAM 9.25 U-joint axle shafts with a high-strength constant velocity design. Tests prove Ultimate CV Axles to be twice as strong as OEM axle shafts, and they're just as tough at a straight angle as they are at...

www.rcvperformance.com

They only have the inner and outer shafts you would not be eliminating the CAD at all the passenger side shaft is only long enough to reach the CAD not the carrier.


This is even more proof that there is no reason to delete the CAD if no aftermarket manufactures even one as big as RCV make delete kits…. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel

 

[johanh13]

They only have the inner and outer shafts you would not be eliminating the CAD at all the passenger side shaft is only long enough to reach the CAD not the carrier.


This is even more proof that there is no reason to delete the CAD if no aftermarket manufactures even one as big as RCV make delete kits…. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel

This is a delete kit;

"RCV Performance Ultimate CV Axles simply replace your weak Dodge Ram 2500/3500's AAM 9.25 U-joint axle shafts with a high-strength constant velocity design. Tests prove Ultimate CV Axles to be twice as strong as OEM axle shafts, and they're just as tough at a straight angle as they are at extreme angles - where U-joints are weakest. Ultimate CV Axles also eliminate U-joint binding to allow smooth transfer power to the ground. Designed to eleminate the disconnect. Even if you have big tires and big power there are no worries."

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

This is a delete kit;

"RCV Performance Ultimate CV Axles simply replace your weak Dodge Ram 2500/3500's AAM 9.25 U-joint axle shafts with a high-strength constant velocity design. Tests prove Ultimate CV Axles to be twice as strong as OEM axle shafts, and they're just as tough at a straight angle as they are at extreme angles - where U-joints are weakest. Ultimate CV Axles also eliminate U-joint binding to allow smooth transfer power to the ground. Designed to eleminate the disconnect. Even if you have big tires and big power there are no worries."

Missed that line but still show me evidence the CAD is the weak point…. One member here broke the ring gear on his truck not the CAD so thats showing the CAD is not the weak point like you seem to think it is. Besides if you are doing something that wild off road you should be trussing the axles as your first step

 

[jetrinka]

Missed that line but still show me evidence the CAD is the weak point…. One member here broke the ring gear on his truck not the CAD so thats showing the CAD is not the weak point like you seem to think it is. Besides if you are doing something that wild off road you should be trussing the axles as your first step

I don't think the benefit lies in strength but more-so simplicity (thought they do advertise strength as their products main benefit). When going into 4wd there is only one thing that needs to happen at the transfer case instead of two (t-case and CAD). Thats why I did it on my 01. I'd imagine the speed of the 4wd shift would be improved as well. Less moving parts = more better IMO (but not for that kind of cost)

 

[jsalbre]

Only on the F150 Tremor, Ram used to offer a similar feature on 1500’s and Durangos….I don’t think heavy duty applications are suitable for this technology

The TRX is full-time with the electronic clutch based system. The Wrangler 392 is also the same clutch based full time system.

I know the clutch based systems are more efficient, but I'd rather have a center-diff case, like the old NP242.

 

[AH64ID]

I really like the torsen based full time/part time transfer case in our 4Runner.

 

[akguy09]

The TRX is full-time with the electronic clutch based system. The Wrangler 392 is also the same clutch based full time system.

I know the clutch based systems are more efficient, but I'd rather have a center-diff case, like the old NP242.

TRX and Jeep are still not heavy duty, and the TRX has been known to burn those clutch’s up. Jeep used to use them back in the 60‘s and 70’s in wagoneers, Cherokee’s and J trucks as well. My point is a clutch based center diff just isn’t up to heavy duty standards yet.

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

The TRX is full-time with the electronic clutch based system. The Wrangler 392 is also the same clutch based full time system.

I know the clutch based systems are more efficient, but I'd rather have a center-diff case, like the old NP242.

Engineering explained has a two door rubicon v6 manual press car and he showed it has full time as well. I was surprised by that.

The np242 was a good case, I really like them. it came in an np242hd version that was for larger vehicles including hmmwv IIRC

I liked the auto 4wd clutch based system in the GMs but I think it doesn’t have a place in a modern 3/4 or 1t but I also don’t see snow. It would probably be nice to have the option for some folks.

 

[AH64ID]

Engineering explained has a two door rubicon v6 manual press car and he showed it has full time as well. I was surprised by that.

From what I have researched on the JL/JT Full Time 4wd is that it's more of an auto-engage system than true full time 4wd, which does have a place but that's not what I'd prefer.

When we bought the wife's JT I wouldn't have shy'd away from the feature, but the more I read about it the happier I am without it.

 

[jsalbre]

TRX and Jeep are still not heavy duty, and the TRX has been known to burn those clutch’s up. Jeep used to use them back in the 60‘s and 70’s in wagoneers, Cherokee’s and J trucks as well. My point is a clutch based center diff just isn’t up to heavy duty standards yet.

I agree, it's not HD, but you said Ram used to offer it on the 1500s. They still do.

I'm not a fan of the clutch based systems at all. Some people on the Jeep forums have had theirs overheat and disable 4wd entirely while running in sand.

 

[jsalbre]

From what I have researched on the JL/JT Full Time 4wd is that it's more of an auto-engage system than true full time 4wd, which does have a place but that's not what I'd prefer.

When we bought the wife's JT I wouldn't have shy'd away from the feature, but the more I read about it the happier I am without it.

That's correct. It's "4 auto" not "4 full time". I was really torn when I bought my Gladiator as I see a lot of snow driving and auto or full time beat part time any day in that, but at the end of the day I decided I spend far more time out in the wilderness and finding myself stuck in 2wd because the clutch overheated would be a major problem. I looked into trying to do an NV242 swap, but It was going to be too complicated and require a lot of custom fab that I don't have the capabilities to do.