Firestone Transforce AT Tires Are Useless

<div class="bbWrapper">17000 miles wearing nicely but never in snow we just can’t seem to buy any</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">It rained the other day and the tires spun pulling out into traffic. We’ve got camping trips planned for each month from May to October and I didn’t want to chance an accident pulling the trailer. So with 14,700 miles I had Discount Tire replace the Transforce AT’s with Michelin Agilis CrossClimates. I noticed an improvement in ride immediately, smother and more quiet. I measured the AT’s when I got home - they’re all at 8/32” or half the original tread depth. <br /> <br /> Can’t wait to try them in the rain and towing. Bonus: Discount Tire will rotate them every 6-8K miles for me - no more driveway shuffles!</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">When we picked up our new truck from the dealer it had snowed during the day. On the way home the truck just kept slipping all over the place. In following this forum I had been researching tires for my Ram. Within the week I had a set of Continental TerrainContact AT&#039;s put on and they made the world of difference.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 223" data-quote="Jeffmc306" data-source="post: 77855" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=77855" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-77855">Jeffmc306 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It rained the other day and the tires spun pulling out into traffic. We’ve got camping trips planned for each month from May to October and I didn’t want to chance an accident pulling the trailer. So with 14,700 miles I had Discount Tire replace the Transforce AT’s with Michelin Agilis CrossClimates. I noticed an improvement in ride immediately, smother and more quiet. I measured the AT’s when I got home - they’re all at 8/32” or half the original tread depth.<br /> <br /> Can’t wait to try them in the rain and towing. Bonus: Discount Tire will rotate them every 6-8K miles for me - no more driveway shuffles! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I put these same CrossClimates on my 2001 Ford a bit over a year ago. I love them! I also noticed a difference in ride and noise. I had Toyos of some kind on that I replaced because they aged out, way out, and was I worried about the towing also. So someone is going to get some nice new tires when I sell the Ford. I went back and forth about whether to immediately replace the Transforce that are coming on the new Ram. Lots of people complain, others say they were OK. I don&#039;t really go off road, just gravel Forest Service road type stuff. And I have always had a second set of wheels with winter tires for my truck. Not sure if I will do the winter tire thing with the Ram. Just having a bit of a time making up my mind. I think I have decided to just try them for a while at least since even when new, it does not seem like I would get much credit for them if I took them off. Who knows, may still change my mind though.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 223" data-quote="Jeffmc306" data-source="post: 77855" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=77855" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-77855">Jeffmc306 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It rained the other day and the tires spun pulling out into traffic. We’ve got camping trips planned for each month from May to October and I didn’t want to chance an accident pulling the trailer. So with 14,700 miles I had Discount Tire replace the Transforce AT’s with Michelin Agilis CrossClimates. I noticed an improvement in ride immediately, smother and more quiet. I measured the AT’s when I got home - they’re all at 8/32” or half the original tread depth. <br /> <br /> Can’t wait to try them in the rain and towing. Bonus: Discount Tire will rotate them every 6-8K miles for me - no more driveway shuffles! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Sounds like you waited at least 14,000 miles too long before scrapping them.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 3914" data-quote="LateToTheParty" data-source="post: 77890" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=77890" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-77890">LateToTheParty said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Sounds like you waited at least 14,000 miles too long before scrapping them. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Ha! That is exactly what I am debating right now. It is just hard to justify scrapping brand new tires without giving them a chance. Especially when it seems like they are worth next to nothing to the place you buy the replacements from.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">So how bad are these tires if you are not off roading or going in the snow? I am considering these because I like the Night Edition but have not heard great things about these tires. Are they going to be ok for just highway driving and towing for the most part? Do these have a rough ride and/or are they noisy on the road?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 9785" data-quote="jm888" data-source="post: 77905" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=77905" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-77905">jm888 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> So how bad are these tires if you are not off roading or going in the snow? I am considering these because I like the Night Edition but have not heard great things about these tires. Are they going to be ok for just highway driving and towing for the most part? Do these have a rough ride and/or are they noisy on the road? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I see differing opinions on this which is what makes the decision hard. Some say they are fine for their use of mainly highway towing and also say they are fine in the rain as long as there is weight on the rear tires. Others say they are not.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">In the time that I had them, I had zero issues on the highway or around town driving (after airing them down to a reasonable pressure instead of the 92-98 PSI when I took delivery). <br /> They were not noisy, were not rough and didn&#039;t leave me feeling unsafe in the slightest (while on the road). <br /> <br /> I did, however, have multiple traction issues outside of those situations. Worst was helping a friend move and trying to drive up their dirt driveway.<br /> <br /> Moving truck had no problems.<br /> His 1500 had no problems.<br /> Her FJ with bald Duratracs had no problems.<br /> Previous owner&#039;s Honda CRV had no problems.<br /> You get the picture.<br /> <br /> It was frustrating, embarrassing and since I spend a decent amount of time hunting, fishing, camping, etc... off the beaten path, it sealed the deal that I could not wait any longer.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 8297" data-quote="Will_T" data-source="post: 77894" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=77894" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-77894">Will_T said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ha! That is exactly what I am debating right now. It is just hard to justify scrapping brand new tires without giving them a chance. Especially when it seems like they are worth next to nothing to the place you buy the replacements from. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>My thoughts exactly - I wanted them to work out but after two winters and spinning the tires in wet, I did not want to chance it. The Michelins and others mentioned by others handle adverse conditions better than the Transforce AT’s. <br /> <br /> They were tolerable in dry conditions but the pucker factor would take over when towing in the rain on interstate highways. Just not worth risking it all for the money. <br /> <br /> That silver Twinkie behind the RAM cost more than the truck. If I get 10 extra feet of stopping distance in the rain and that’s the difference between wrecking or not, its worth it.</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 9785" data-quote="jm888" data-source="post: 77905" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=77905" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-77905">jm888 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> So how bad are these tires if you are not off roading or going in the snow? I am considering these because I like the Night Edition but have not heard great things about these tires. Are they going to be ok for just highway driving and towing for the most part? Do these have a rough ride and/or are they noisy on the road? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Two years of driving on the road in Flori-duh with zero issues on dry or wet pavement... towing both heavy and light loads.<br /> Driving down your typical sandy &#039;dirt&#039; road was ok so long as it was nice and compacted, otherwise I got stuck once in some sugar sand.<br /> <br /> Unless there is a drastic change as they wear, they will stay on there until it is time to replace.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 4614" data-quote="Epsilon Plus" data-source="post: 38748" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=38748" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-38748">Epsilon Plus said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/7648/" target="_blank">View attachment 7648</a><a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/7649/" target="_blank">View attachment 7649</a><br /> <br /> Lol these tires are hot garbage. Slight incline driveway. Rolled the steers back against the curb and gave it like 10% throttle and it was like driving on glass. Put more rubber down in a slight spin than John Force.<br /> <br /> More reason the 4x4 Off Road sticker was so cheesy. With these racing slicks? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I am by no means defending the transforce, they’re total pieces of crap. I replaced mine at 2,000 miles. Only took me that long because I was waiting on wheels.<br /> <br /> Anyway, i have non-dot sticky competition tires on my rock crawler (39” bfg red labels ~$3000 set of tires or ~$700+ each)<br /> I broke an axle shaft so I had one wheel drive on the rear axle and this is what my driveway looked like when I backed the crawler up the driveway.<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/a0f2a5d4-ea4f-415e-9e5a-28783bdb5ec6-jpeg.15050/" target="_blank"><img src="https://hdrams.com/forum/data/attachments/15/15050-14271cb2039344bc91ac45283cf1d8db.jpg?hash=FCccsgOTRL" class="bbImage " style="" alt="A0F2A5D4-EA4F-415E-9E5A-28783BDB5EC6.jpeg" title="A0F2A5D4-EA4F-415E-9E5A-28783BDB5EC6.jpeg" width="150" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I almost got stuck in sugar sand once.........aired the tire down to about 20 lbs and gave her hell. Bucking bronc ride, but I lived to tell the story. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the tires were Transforce HT’s.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 2570" data-quote="Aketay" data-source="post: 78228" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=78228" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-78228">Aketay said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I almost got stuck in sugar sand once.........aired the tire down to about 20 lbs and gave her hell. Bucking bronc ride, but I lived to tell the story. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the tires were Transforce HT’s. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>HTs are &#039;highway&#039; tires...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">On my 2018 Ram tradesman I got about 23,000 on them...... They have no mileage rating Pure Junk. I had BF tires before Junk. I replaced the Firestone with Cooper A/T I go about 10.000 on them close to the wear bars on the tires.... To think they are rated at 50 or 60,000 miles.... I know I drive like I have a sports car and have a car trailer moving 2 Big Garden tractors to mow 3.5 acres... I&#039;ll keep going back to where I buy them and get the prorate out of them......... More people need to do that and maybe then they will make a better tire!!!!</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 9757" data-quote="Mopar1Charger" data-source="post: 78237" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=78237" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-78237">Mopar1Charger said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> On my 2018 Ram tradesman I got about 23,000 on them...... They have no mileage rating Pure Junk. I had BF tires before Junk. I replaced the Firestone with Cooper A/T I go about 10.000 on them close to the wear bars on the tires.... To think they are rated at 50 or 60,000 miles.... I know I drive like I have a sports car and have a car trailer moving 2 Big Garden tractors to more 3.5 acres... I&#039;ll keep going back to where I buy them and get the prorate out of them......... More people need to do that and maybe then they will make a better tire!!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> They have no incentive to make a better tire so long as OEM keep buying them...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Rumors also that OEM buys a crappier compound than the retail versions. Guy I know whos worked at Firestone for years thinks this too. Firestone Transforce HT/ATs bought at the store would be room temperature garbage rather than hot like OEM.</div>
 
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