Firestone OEM tires

[MEZZ2006]

I ran mine for just over a year before upgrading. They were fine in dry conditions but slipped terribly in anything else. Had 18k on them and listed them for $175, had 2 guys that wanted them within 24 hrs. The guy that bought them didn't bicker on the price, so i gave him $5 off so I didn't have to make change and since it was the easiest sale I ever made.

 

[X-Wrestler]

I had mine on for under 200 miles and they haven't sold yet.

 

[RV_Goose]

I had mine on for under 200 miles and they haven't sold yet.

Much depends on location and who's looking at the timeyou are selling. No one local wanted my RAM floor mud mats. So off to the dump they go today.

 

[Brewbud]

I wonder if my 20" night edition wheels will sell faster if I remove the Firestones LOL

 

[X-Wrestler]

The difference between how the truck handles with real tires from stock is just crazy.

They should be ashamed of themselves for putting such trash on an HD truck.

I know all manufacturers do the same thing, it's just garbage.

 

[Wmhjr]

Not to be contrary, but I will. Only put 4k miles on the '20, pulling mainly a gooseneck horse trailer. Live in SW PA, so VERY hilly, twisty. Often in WV as well as OH. Pulled through the winter, where as you might suspect we get a lot of snow and ice. We also get a fair amount of rain. I have no real complaints and do not plan on swapping them out until they've been used up.

And again - for the record - on my '04 I always used Coopers. Yes, I will go back to the Coopers when these OEM tires need replaced - but only when they need replaced. I use my truck to pull and haul things, and have about zero interest in putting some oversized hunks of metal and rubber on my axles.

 

[X-Wrestler]

Think it all depends on your needs and where you drive.
I pull a 5th wheel and dirt bike trailer regularly, in Colorado. Usually into some remote places. The stock tires on anything but pavement sucked for me.

As soon as I hit dirt the wheels were spinning. A larger tire with much better treads is what I need to go where I go.

If I only drove on pavement in dry weather with no one else on the road, ever, I might consider leaving them on until they wore out.

As for the wheels, that's just about preference. This is my daily driver not a work truck, so I like to make it my own. It's just my personality, but I hate driving a truck that looks just like everyone else's.

Glad these tires are working for you though.

 

[Wmhjr]

Think it all depends on your needs and where you drive.
I pull a 5th wheel and dirt bike trailer regularly, in Colorado. Usually into some remote places. The stock tires on anything but pavement sucked for me.

As soon as I hit dirt the wheels were spinning. A larger tire with much better treads is what I need to go where I go.

If I only drove on pavement in dry weather with no one else on the road, ever, I might consider leaving them on until they wore out.

As for the wheels, that's just about preference. This is my daily driver not a work truck, so I like to make it my own. It's just my personality, but I hate driving a truck that looks just like everyone else's.

Glad these tires are working for you though.

Just so you know, I'm pulling the gooseneck into some pretty remote places as well. WELL off the map in places like the Allegheny National Forest, and the Appalachias, steep and twisty dirt roads (more like fire roads). Now, deep mud is probably a much different story, but wet and dirt in the hills is very common. As an aside, the actual incline on the hills here is typically steeper than what I experience in CO and WY - just not as much vertical drop. 11% grade is really common here. We have a ton of streets that are well above 20%. The steepest public road around here is 37%.

But again, I'll replace with Coopers when they're done.

 

[dm6]

From reading all the posts, it seems like most people hate these tires and are replacing them with bigger and/or more off road tires. I don't plan to go off roading with this truck. It will be mostly used on the pavement, towing,, maybe sometimes on snowy roads going up to go skiing. I am not going to go anywhere where there is deep mud or anything. These can't be that bad for general use like I just mentioned, are they?

 

[Wmhjr]

From reading all the posts, it seems like most people hate these tires and are replacing them with bigger and/or more off road tires. I don't plan to go off roading with this truck. It will be mostly used on the pavement, towing,, maybe sometimes on snowy roads going up to go skiing. I am not going to go anywhere where there is deep mud or anything. These can't be that bad for general use like I just mentioned, are they?

For me there are fine for general use.

 

[Will_T]

Only 700 miles on mine so far but what I have noticed is: Once in rain on freeway, no ponding but wet pavement, I had hydroplaning type feel in steering wheel. At about 65 mph. Let off the pedal and it stopped. Not sure if it was the rear or front but the truck was empty and no shell yet and fuel was at about 25 gallons of 52g. So a little light in the rear. I was surprised though since as the tires are new, the tread depth is at max. Also I have had easily spinning rear tires from stop on any dirt or gravel, even with gentle foot. Once had to back up and make a run at a slight gravely incline off driveway onto the highway. But again, truck will be heavier in rear with shell and contents of bed so maybe that will improve.

As far as road noise and smoothness of ride on pavement, it seems good to me. Maybe not as good as my 2001 F-350 with Michelin Aguilis Cross Climates but comparable. I have the front set to 70 psi, rear at 65. I have not towed with them yet.

 

[whitexc]

I will be generally using them until they wear out. I too won't be off road, some snow and some towing here and there.

I have noticed some odd behavior in rain. I have read enough on here that I will just take it easy in the wet weather.

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[RV_Goose]

From reading all the posts, it seems like most people hate these tires and are replacing them with bigger and/or more off road tires. I don't plan to go off roading with this truck. It will be mostly used on the pavement, towing,, maybe sometimes on snowy roads going up to go skiing. I am not going to go anywhere where there is deep mud or anything. These can't be that bad for general use like I just mentioned, are they?

I am mostly on road towing a 12 k trailer. I dislike the stock Firestone tires because they do not handle the weight and loose traction too easily. Rear air pressures when towing at 90% rated axle capacity, and tire capacity, the air pressure went up from 90PSI to over 100 in short distance. I replaced with Michelin rated the same E, but they had slightly higher load ratings.

 

[Wmhjr]

I am mostly on road towing a 12 k trailer. I dislike the stock Firestone tires because they do not handle the weight and loose traction too easily. Rear air pressures when towing at 90% rated axle capacity, and tire capacity, the air pressure went up from 90PSI to over 100 in short distance. I replaced with Michelin rated the same E, but they had slightly higher load ratings.

I'm curious what you meant by this. Did you mean that after towing at 90% rating, your air pressure rose from 90psi cold to 100psi hot? I would think this is normal due to the effects of the Ideal Gas law. It does not take long in driving for the tires to start to warm up, correspondingly heating up the air, where the result must be that pressure will increase as volume remains static while temperature rises.

An example of how important this is relates to my motorcycle road racing (GP style track racing). We use tire warmers to heat our tires as well as heat sinking the rims as much as possible to about 175F. It's at that temp that we set tire pressure, based on our bike, the track conditions, and the specific tire. Even then, after sitting on the grid we then do a "warm up lap" before final grid - for which the purpose is in large part to get some more heat in those tires. Tire warmers are even used on the grid and removed (along with the portable generator, wheel stands, etc) just before they're ready to drop the flag.

So, I would not at all be concerned over a 10 degree F increase in temp from cold after driving even a short distance. But that's just my thought.

In the pic, you can see why tire performance and temps are something I was pretty concerned with.......

 

[Brewbud]

I'm curious what you meant by this. Did you mean that after towing at 90% rating, your air pressure rose from 90psi cold to 100psi hot? I would think this is normal due to the effects of the Ideal Gas law. It does not take long in driving for the tires to start to warm up, correspondingly heating up the air, where the result must be that pressure will increase as volume remains static while temperature rises.

An example of how important this is relates to my motorcycle road racing (GP style track racing). We use tire warmers to heat our tires as well as heat sinking the rims as much as possible to about 175F. It's at that temp that we set tire pressure, based on our bike, the track conditions, and the specific tire. Even then, after sitting on the grid we then do a "warm up lap" before final grid - for which the purpose is in large part to get some more heat in those tires. Tire warmers are even used on the grid and removed (along with the portable generator, wheel stands, etc) just before they're ready to drop the flag.

So, I would not at all be concerned over a 10 degree F increase in temp from cold after driving even a short distance. But that's just my thought.

In the pic, you can see why tire performance and temps are something I was pretty concerned with.......

Did you find that some tires heat up more than others?

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

after 9500km my rears were 1/2 worn with the transforce some crack head did buy em for 500$ though lol my coopers i have had on since 9500km now at 26k km with lots of trailering involved and one rotation i have minimal wear about 2/32nds worn off pretty good in my mind

 

[Wmhjr]

Did you find that some tires heat up more than others?

If we're talking the same type of tires (meaning for example Pirelli Diablo Superbike vs Dunlop KR451 200 rear slicks) then not really. The different compounds affected grip in different track conditions, how long they'd last (and for sprint racing it's really one race, but Endurance how many laps between having to swap tires). The temps affected how much grip, but they all heat up pretty darned quick. If I was careful and just actually "racing" (meaning track training) I could get tires from cold to hot with corresponding temp increases in no more than 2 laps so long is it is dry, and the track surface is warm. Laps are in general anywhere from about 1.2 to a bit over 4 miles (rare, but such as Road America). In those cases, you had to really start cautiously and only gradually pick up the pace (and lean angle) as you heated the tires up. Heavy acceleration/braking/lean angle on cold tires is one of the surest ways to put your bike on the ground.

OTOH, I will say that there was a ton of difference in how they "behaved". Pirellis are a lot more forgiving at lower temps, with more sidewall flex. The Dunlops could handle race pace for a bit longer without losing grip but were a bitch in the cold (and a real PITA to change) partly due to a much stiffer sidewall. Just a couple examples. Definite differences in behavior. Contis I absolutely hate. For me it's either Pirelli or Dunlop. Nothing else.

 

[BAT3500]

For me i will wear out the existing firetrash tires and and then replace with Michelins, just like on my previous 3 trucks. I have been paying a lot more attention since I've started towing a fiver on a regular basis, the stock tires do consistently go up 5-10 psi after a few minutes use regardless of the the loads. I was really concerned at first but the resulting pressure difference change has been virtually been the same with either the truck fully loaded to the gills or empty. Haven't noted any real increase in tire temperatures after driving between loaded or empty conditions either

 

[X-Wrestler]

For me i will wear out the existing firetrash tires and and then replace with Michelins, just like on my previous 3 trucks. I have been paying a lot more attention since I've started towing a fiver on a regular basis, the stock tires do consistently go up 5-10 psi after a few minutes use regardless of the the loads. I was really concerned at first but the resulting pressure difference change has been virtually been the same with either the truck fully loaded to the gills or empty. Haven't noted any real increase in tire temperatures after driving between loaded or empty conditions either

Towing was my biggest reason for ditching the stockers right away. One of my biggest fears is a catastrophic blow out while towing. The amount of damage a truck this size plus the 5th wheel on busy highway would cause is just crazy.

Wasn't worth the risk to me, but obviously people are doing just fine with them too.

 

[BAT3500]

I been watching the stockers closely, both temps and pressures, so far no problems noted. Towing about a 16k trailer with srw 3500 for about 5000 towing miles to date.
Again, not my favorite tires for sure, but they have done adequate job on the road for now. I usually replace them when i start slipping on wet boat ramps which was about the 35k mark for the last oem set.