EMP Protection For Home and Auto

[txjfrosty]

Has anyone installed one of these in their truck or house? and do they really work?

EMP Shield

 

[UglyViking]

I am not going to pretend to know enough about this subject to give a recommendation. It does come across as snake oil to me, and I think part of that is how they choose their marketing and language. They are indeed listed in the dept of homeland sec emp resilliance report (page 90), but from reading a little at the beginning it seems to indicate that basically "anyone" can get their name in that doc by emailing the dept of homeland sec. They state in the doc numerous times that inclusion in the doc is not a recommendation, but "emp shield" seems to be treating it as such with the number of times it's plastered all over their website.

They also list a bunch of mil certs they don't seem to have tested for, so that is also concerning.

Finally, in their "about us" section they give a write up on the fact that their product can take multiple surges, and all phases of an emp. They are somehow able to do what the military isn't at a fraction of the cost.

Again, my understanding of this space is functionally null, but my understanding is that the real damage from something like an emp would be the E1 pulse, which happens within a few pico seconds up through a few nano seconds range I think? I'd be extremely surprised if that little box could handle both the load and time requirements for it to matter much, especially considering it's cost. Plus, if any major event did happen where these things would be needed, arguably the whole country would be in massive turmoil and this company could easily avoid any issue.

Based out of nothing I get the feeling @ramblinChet would know more about this stuff, although I don't know if he would have much interest in it.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Does it come with a free tinfoil hat?

It honestly looks like those antirust modules that do nothing just blink. And really even if it did/ did not work how could you test it. To me that 100% looks like a scam.

Besides How could those tiny wires be able to absorb all the extra energy to protect from the massive electrical for it to work.

 

[mountainears]

Faraday cages are what is typically used. Plugging in another electronic device doesn’t seem to be a solution that sounds right but I haven’t researched it honestly.

Get an older diesel vehicle, seems like a more straightforward approach than trying to protect a modern vehicle. It’s hard to test that it is working, older vehicles have been tested.


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[txjfrosty]

Thanks for input guys. I was pretty skeptical about this from the start, but figured I'd ask.

I have some faraday bags for a few smaller items in my house, but not one big enough for my truck... LOL

I like the older diesel idea better.

Thanks again

 

[mountainears]

Yea. I think if you were going to go the faraday route you would need to protect a ton of different components. I’m military vehicles I’m thinking that would be easier to do as they have less fluff.


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[UglyViking]

For what it's worth, the DOD did testing on vehicles back in the early 2000s, and there was only 1 or 2 vehicles that suffered complete failure and wouldn't turn back on, and only something like 3-4 that had any issue if memory serves. I think they tested something like 40 vehicles.

I believe most modern vehicles have been tested against lightning strikes, which have a similar electrical process to EMPs, although I think they may be a hair slower in speed? Either way, generally speaking, micro electronics components are fine because they can't build up enough energy to try them, as the connections (wires and such) act like antennas. The longer the antenna, the more strength and thus more devastating the issue.

End of the day anything with more mechanical parts is obviously going to be more resistant to such issues, but it's not without a downside, being maintenance, storing parts for older vehicles that go bad, acquiring new parts, etc.

 

[jsalbre]

I know people want to be prepared for things, but if the situation arises that you need to protect your vehicle from EMP you’re going to have far bigger things to worry about.

 

[waveslayer]

For what it's worth, the DOD did testing on vehicles back in the early 2000s, and there was only 1 or 2 vehicles that suffered complete failure and wouldn't turn back on, and only something like 3-4 that had any issue if memory serves. I think they tested something like 40 vehicles.

I believe most modern vehicles have been tested against lightning strikes, which have a similar electrical process to EMPs, although I think they may be a hair slower in speed? Either way, generally speaking, micro electronics components are fine because they can't build up enough energy to try them, as the connections (wires and such) act like antennas. The longer the antenna, the more strength and thus more devastating the issue.

End of the day anything with more mechanical parts is obviously going to be more resistant to such issues, but it's not without a downside, being maintenance, storing parts for older vehicles that go bad, acquiring new parts, etc.

Cars today will be far worse than cars were when tested back then. It's all computers now. Yes an EMP will fry any new car today. As for that product, has it been tested against an actual EMP or Nuclear bomb. Most don't know that a nuke sends an EMP first!!!!

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[Hillbilly61]

My Christmas gift this year to my family is one of these each - we all have good working trucks and want to keep it that way!

Wired EMP Stopper Blocker Vehicle Car Truck SUV Lightning Solar Flare Surge Protection 12V

12V EMP Stopper

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EMP Stopper Blocker Vehicle Car Truck Lightning Solar Flare Surge Protection 12V | eBay

The EMP Stopper is a multi-purpose transient protection device. It is easy to install by simply connecting to the battery of the vehicle. This is more surge capacity than most 'whole house' power panel surge protectors.

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