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E-Locker in front of my2022 ram 2500

chas0218 said:
With all this new tech you'd think they would use the vehicles stability control to help with traction on the front axles once 4wd is engaged. They could engage the ABS 4 channel pump to lightly apply the brakes to the slipping wheel.
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There is tech like that, land cruisers have the best tech like that in the world. Nothing replaces a true locker though.
 
PW has selectable locker on both axles. ;)

I ran a lunch box locker on the front of my K5. After a few trips to the dunes, I wish I would have not installed it.
 
Crusty old shellback said:
PW has selectable locker on both axles. ;)

I ran a lunch box locker on the front of my K5. After a few trips to the dunes, I wish I would have not installed it.
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With the K5 it would have freewheeling hubs so why did you have an issue with the lunchbox?
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
They do have it on the jeeps im not sure on the HD rams @Jimmy07 any info if we have it?
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Wonder if it is as simple as turning on the feature/ability?
Ironsides77 said:
There is tech like that, land cruisers have the best tech like that in the world. Nothing replaces a true locker though.
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Yeah our trucks have it for the rear but not the front or so I have read. I don't know why they wouldn't just add it to the front as well.
 
chas0218 said:
Wonder if it is as simple as turning on the feature/ability?

Yeah our trucks have it for the rear but not the front or so I have read. I don't know why they wouldn't just add it to the front as well.
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More sensors and abs stuff would need to go in. The masses won’t use it, ever, so it doesn’t warrant the cost for Ram. They figure people will go rebel/pw if they want that stuff.

My 3500 will have a LSD so I’ll pair it with a locker in the front. A lot of Jeep guys do the same with really good results. It’s said a LSD with a 4wd rig is as good as a locked rig until rock crawling is involved.
 
Anything new come onto the market yet for the front of my 2022 2500? I really wish Ox Locker would offer one of their cable actuated lockers...
 
choprzrul said:
Anything new come onto the market yet for the front of my 2022 2500? I really wish Ox Locker would offer one of their cable actuated lockers...
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Doesn’t appear so.

I’m four weeks into waiting on the tracRite EL from Justdifferentials that I ordered. Just called and they said probably another 8 weeks.
 
NorCal--3500 said:
bump

Any updates from anyone yet?
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After waiting about four months, I canceled my order with justdifferentials.

Going to order form someone who has it in stock.

They did ship me the adaptor kit though. Spacer for the ring, and longer bolts.
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
Exactly the anti slip for the rear is clutches except for the PW that has helical torsion style setup
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I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how the 19+ LSD operates, but I’d still rather have a helical gear LSD.
 
AH64ID said:
I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how the 19+ LSD operates, but I’d still rather have a helical gear LSD.
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Mine has been great i dont like the helical setup personally a lunchbox would be the next step up before a selectable locker
 
ramblinChet said:
I disagree entirely. Why do you think front wheel drive vehicles dominate rear wheel drive in slippery conditions?

Back a few decades ago my best buddy had a CJ7 with a Dana 300 that had twin sticks - go ahead and Google. He had lockers front and rear too. Anyway, we took his CJ out to a tough local trail one day and ran it locked front and rear - it was a tough trail but we made it. We looped back around and disengaged the front drive train but left the rear engaged - we struggled, cursed, and eventually engaged the front to clear 80-90% of the obstacles. We looped around one more time - this time we engaged the front axle and left the rear disengaged. We cleared 90-95% of the same obstacles with only the front axle turning while the rear was disengaged.

A locker in the rear alone adds very little value. I opted for the factory limited slip since it is good enough and free. A locker up front offers the most value in virtually every circumstance. I have wheeled up and down the east coast, the Rockies, Moab, Black Hills, Ozarks, etc. It's all about fundamental physics - the front end helps you climb over and up things with your engine power. The rear tires usually break traction attempting to push the front forward and upward over identical obstacles.

My build includes adding a locker and it will be installed in the front axle. And the reason is based upon three plus decades of personal experience wheeling all sorts of vehicles in dirt, mud, snow, gravel, slickrock, etc., all around these United States.
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Agree with @ramblinChet

But my two cents is: I wouldn’t put a lunchbox in a 3/4-1ton so you’re looking at full carrier replacement. And because of the labor involved, there is no sense installing a locker unless you’re changing gears and there is no sense installing only one locker if you’re changing the gears and nut deep in both diffs. Two lockers FTW
 
drichardjackson said:
Bump, has anyone done this yet?
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yes- sort of, I guess.

The differential is installed, I just haven't had time to wire it.

There is a bit of an issue that could better be overcome, with enough time and research. That is, getting the wires out of the differential. The factory axle this comes in, is entirely different than the one on these non-PW, newer trucks (Even to the point that a ring adaptor/spacer plate and longer bolts are required for the install - available from notjustdifferentials.com). There is a hole in the differential housing for the wires to pass through, and a sort of hold down clip & seal which matches that hole. This is simply unusable on the axles for which the differential did not come standard. Not only that, from what DTS found while researching this for my install, the parts can't even be ordered.

So, the solution we came up with was to cut the plug off, drill as small of a hole as possible, to feed the wires through, then fill the hole with RTV. Not what I'd call ideal.

I believe with enough time to find the right set-up, a hermetically sealed pass-through would be the RIGHT way to do it. But it would take some work finding one, then figuring out how to get a good seal against a curved surface.

I will get it wires up to the factory aux switches, and run it as is for now. I'm going to try to find a pass-through solution in the next 30k mi, and hopefully I'll be able to improve the situation on the next fluid change.

I don't know if the factory PW axle would be a drop-in proposition, but if so, it might actually be a better option to try sourcing a used front axle. Well, maybe not- it's going to be geared more in-line with the gasser, so gearing would have to be changed.

If I find a good pass-through option to give a more reliable seal, I'll be sure to post back to here.
 
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