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Deleting....

I say if i can't tow it with my 1000 ft lbs tq an a gcwr of 43,000 than it probably needs a commercial motor vehicle. An i didn't mean to start a whole debate of commercial An 26k an over but I'm good in my state of SD where recreational vehicle operators don't need a cdl.
 
Omar RVA said:
@Sawyerd3 This. Unless you're doing the work yourself, you may have a hard time finding someone (who does good work) to even do it for you at all. Hit any of the main diesel forums and you'll see those guys have gone underground and only work with known and former customers. There's a guy up in Canada still doing it out in the open but that's pretty much it.

The Feds crush the installers then call down each customer list to follow up on who's running dirty. Going after every "tom, dick and harry" is literally enforcement's job. I've seen it happen to a friend I knew in NC (and all of his friends; though not diesel related) for stuff they didn't even know was wrong. They'll absolutely hit the folks who are doing it knowingly, just a matter of whether or not your installer gets busted. The recent crack down was relatively wide spread and deep.

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Yeah I was aware of that whole situation. I guess diesel brothers kinda being the spotlight of it and getting popped pretty hard. Haven’t heard much about it lately but I know that doesn’t mean the EPA Iismt doing anything anymore. But I totally get what your saying. I’ll ask my shop guy tomorrow about and see what he says. Right now I’m really more worried about the warranty vs deleting so it wouldn’t be anytime soon IF I ever did.
@Rich no doubt these truck more than enough umph to do whatever anyone needs. I’d just like to hear the rumble of the engine more than I would the performance aspect.
 
That rumble gets me in trouble, i can't hold back, just can't resist to blow it out. That's why I don't mess with it. I would definitely never risk my warranty. It would have to be pretty old an need new life brought back in to it for me to even think about it. When i used to manage in the commercial industry, that question was asked 100s of times to ase certified mechanics an they all said they would never risk the fines for the horses .
 
The EPA just got a fat check from a few shops here in the Spokane and Coeur d'Alene area. I saw it in the paper about a month ago.
www.spokesman.com

Three Inland Northwest diesel truck companies agree to pay EPA penalties for selling prohibited emission products

The fines, totaling $180,000, were agreed to in January. The three companies sold parts intended to allow diesel trucks to bypass features that ensure compliance with air quality standards from exhaust.
www.spokesman.com www.spokesman.com
 
Man, thats a good article to share. It's serious buisness out there an it's just my personnel opinion that its only going to get tougher as more company's lean toward an electric line of vehicles.
 
I remember my buddies uncle had a huge pile of smog pumps and other emissions crap in the corner of his shop. This was back in the early 90s, he was complaining about the EPA crackdown on the shops back then. Just another game of fill the coffers.
 
The commercial industry has moved so much to cng an toward electric an away from diesel, i told my wife i really truly believe the big diesel hp an tq wars are all but at there pinnacle. That's why i got the big boy, just don't think it's going to keep going up. I used to be a commercial driver for 25 yrs an it's crazy to think of people out there with no heavy hauling experience driving around with 43 or 45 k.
 
Pretty sure the era of deleting is ending. There will be less and less support from knowledgeable tech guys as it is illegal to do a business from it. So it will be on the shoulders of the average Joe to do it. Sure, everybody can remove the "jet engine" that is the exhaust system on today's diesels and replace it with straight pipes. But since it does also requires a lot of bypass in the truck software, it won't be an easy task for Joe.
 
Nope, yer right. I remember the younger guys at work bypassing there's an they had to buy lots of tune stuff to get them tricked out the way they wanted them. An somebody has to sell that tune stuff , wich according to the article posted, those sellers can be held highly liable if not sold for racing purposes only
 
Rich said:
The commercial industry has moved so much to cng an toward electric an away from diesel, i
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CNG and LNG is slowing down drastically now that the Government isn't giving tax credits, etc to the businesses any more. I drove a CNG 18 wheeler for 3 years and Hated that thing (you are sitting on top of a time bomb in case some in an accident hits your fuel tank). A good bit of fuel stops were 300 or more miles apart and only selected truck stop carry that fuel just to get there to find out their pumps were out or down. Then you have to get towed another few hundred mile to fill up. You can't just put that sough in a can and bring it out when you run out. Pilot and Flying J have stopped expanding on those fuel locations. The company I was with at that time got rid of every one of them after their 3 year deal ran out. I also use to drive a CNG Tanker with Raven Transport for 3 of my 18 years I was with them, they were under contract to Clean Energy. Raven eventually got out of the CNG and LNG delivery business.

Just about the only ones still using it has dedicated tanks on their yard and returns to their yards when fuel is needed. Even UPS keeps running out of the fuel quite often. I sometimes would get emergency call to refill some UPS trucks sometime with my tanker when they were on the side of the road if I happened to be near by. You are now talking about big Bucks $$$

Besides, not everyone is certified to work on a CNG vehicle and you can't repair or park them in a confined building unless it ventilated to certain specifications (with Fans and gas sniffers, warning and fire prevention systems).

Remember CNG and LNG are not interchangeable with each other.

Here is a link to the fuel locations we have and how far apart they are if you are traveling: avilable: https://www.cnglngstations.com/
 
1FastHemi said:
CNG and LNG is slowing down drastically now that the Government isn't giving tax credits, etc to the businesses any more. I drove a CNG 18 wheeler for 3 years and Hated that thing (you are sitting on top of a time bomb in case some in an accident hits your fuel tank). A good bit of fuel stops were 300 or more miles apart and only selected truck stop carry that fuel just to get there to find out their pumps were out or down. Then you have to get towed another few hundred mile to fill up. You can't just put that sough in a can and bring it out when you run out. Pilot and Flying J have stopped expanding on those fuel locations. The company I was with at that time got rid of every one of them after their 3 year deal ran out. I also use to drive a CNG Tanker with Raven Transport for 3 of my 18 years I was with them, they were under contract to Clean Energy. Raven eventually got out of the CNG and LNG delivery business.

Just about the only ones still using it has dedicated tanks on their yard and returns to their yards when fuel is needed. Even UPS keeps running out of the fuel quite often. I sometimes would get emergency call to refill some UPS trucks sometime with my tanker when they were on the side of the road if I happened to be near by. You are now talking about big Bucks $$$

Besides, not everyone is certified to work on a CNG vehicle and you can't repair or park them in a confined building unless it ventilated to certain specifications (with Fans and gas sniffers, warning and fire prevention systems).

Remember CNG and LNG are not interchangeable with each other.

Here is a link to the fuel locations we have and how far apart they are if you are traveling: avilable: https://www.cnglngstations.com/
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They are for sure a ticking time bomb. In our industry we had several explosions that leveled houses. I hate those things. Fueling takes forever to pack the cell, unless you do the quick fill, but that doesn't get it but around 3/4 full. Worst part was no power. We as drivers hated em an ase certified mechanics were lost on them. Your right, the only way to do it is to have on site fueling to the trucks an the shop. Once you've had Cummins diesel power you just can't compare, everything else is a let down.
 
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