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[Grayson]

Im just waiting on a compatible tuning device.


I am planting 2 dozen trees so I identify as "NOx neutral"

 

[Riddick]

I can share the contacts for what you need... I just posted a video to my YouTube channel with the differences between Jenny Craig's weight loss programs for 2018-2020 and the >2021 HO trucks. I cannot speak for the 2022 trucks, but my guess is the same updates for ease of maintenance has been performed on the >2021 Cummins platforms.

What's the name of your channel?

 

[WXman]

It’s called Pay to play.

Speaking of paying, I was at the dealer getting my wife's Jeep serviced today and noticed they had a 6.7 Cummins crate reman engine on a pallet wrapped in plastic for a guy's truck that had been down for a month. I walked by it to check out the shipping label. It read "list price $21,275" and also showed a $5,025 core charge. Holy cow. If the average guy was out of warranty and had one of those engines fail, he might as well buy another truck.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Speaking of paying, I was at the dealer getting my wife's Jeep serviced today and noticed they had a 6.7 Cummins crate reman engine on a pallet wrapped in plastic for a guy's truck that had been down for a month. I walked by it to check out the shipping label. It read "list price $21,275" and also showed a $5,025 core charge. Holy cow. If the average guy was out of warranty and had one of those engines fail, he might as well buy another truck.

You would be better off getting a rebuild unless it broke the block even then thats most likely a loaded engine where as a normal guy would run the old fuel system if it was still good

 

[MtnRider]

Speaking of paying, I was at the dealer getting my wife's Jeep serviced today and noticed they had a 6.7 Cummins crate reman engine on a pallet wrapped in plastic for a guy's truck that had been down for a month. I walked by it to check out the shipping label. It read "list price $21,275" and also showed a $5,025 core charge. Holy cow. If the average guy was out of warranty and had one of those engines fail, he might as well buy another truck.

I am sure that is a warranty job, highly unlikely anyone would need or go that route on their own dime. Much cheaper ways to fix a cummins then that and rarely would they need to. If I had to guess that was probably a new truck with a factory defect that they could no figure out. Oh course dealer pricing is going to be sky high as well


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[js4024]

Just curious but I thought this forum put the instant ban-hammer on delete discussions? If not I like it.

Well, I got banned from "the other site" because I saw tons of posts saying delete this, add that, buy this from this guy, get this from that guy and what I figured out was 1. The guys selling the fish oil were paying kick backs to the forum "owners" or... 2. The guys selling the fish oil WERE the forum owners. I am that guy.... I don't see the benefit of doing anything but visual mods... I read my 2022 owners manual pretty much cover to cover and one thing stood out... They clearly stated that ANY modification to the intake, or exhaust systems was ILLEGAL in all 50 states. So, its not just about warranty coverage now, its also about being legally held accountable. The 2022's even have an engine noise requirement placed on the vehicle by the EPA... what the noise has to do with the EPA I have no idea but basically no more cold air intakes, no more hearing your turbo spool and absolutely no muffler deletes.... You roll coal in my state and they will come impound your vehicle...LOL Can you take your chances? Sure... but big brother is cracking down on companies that sell "MODS" as well as the person installing them. In my state you must have your vehicle inspected and if you have an engine code within 60 days of inspection, (most mods produce some type of code) or you have a modified emissions system... you fail. 30 days to correct it or they pull your plates.

 

[js4024]

Not going into limp mode when running out of DEF for starters, or the added cost of DEF. Also freeing up a few hundred lbs when parts removed is a bonus. Decrease in fuel economy during regen also sucks.

So when someone complains about the cost of fuel or the MPG or in your case DEF fluid it makes me wonder... MPG for a HO6.7l is about 13 city and 21 highway. (Personal experience 3500 SRW) I am being prickish here because of the way you wrote your reply. If it is about economics and you can't afford the DEF or the fuel with very good MPG from a stock vehicle, then perhaps you should have considered a lesser expensive alternative. DEF is 12.50 for 2.5 gallons at Sams Club. 25.00 once a month maybe for me???? Not breaking the bank here.....

 

[Linked4door]

So when someone complains about the cost of fuel or the MPG or in your case DEF fluid it makes me wonder... MPG for a HO6.7l is about 13 city and 21 highway. (Personal experience 3500 SRW) I am being prickish here because of the way you wrote your reply. If it is about economics and you can't afford the DEF or the fuel with very good MPG from a stock vehicle, then perhaps you should have considered a lesser expensive alternative. DEF is 12.50 for 2.5 gallons at Sams Club. 25.00 once a month maybe for me???? Not breaking the bank here.....

Not a question of being able to afford the def or fuel (my DRW gets considerably less might than your SRW though). If I couldn't afford $25 monthly for DEF I wouldn't have bought a $90k truck lol. But when it comes to wanting to save money ($1 or $1k), I am always going to pick saving the money. Call me cheap, call me froogle, call me an *******. I don't really care, since at the end of the day its my money and I can choose to want to spend it or not want to spend it.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

So when someone complains about the cost of fuel or the MPG or in your case DEF fluid it makes me wonder... MPG for a HO6.7l is about 13 city and 21 highway. (Personal experience 3500 SRW) I am being prickish here because of the way you wrote your reply. If it is about economics and you can't afford the DEF or the fuel with very good MPG from a stock vehicle, then perhaps you should have considered a lesser expensive alternative. DEF is 12.50 for 2.5 gallons at Sams Club. 25.00 once a month maybe for me???? Not breaking the bank here.....

You are no getting 21mpg at highway speeds unless you are always driving down hill…. The damages the emissions stuff does to the engine and the unreliability of it all is the biggest reason to delete… a delete with proper tuning wont roll coal….

 

[Xflight29]

You are no getting 21mpg at highway speeds unless you are always driving down hill…. The damages the emissions stuff does to the engine and the unreliability of it all is the biggest reason to delete… a delete with proper tuning wont roll coal….

Do you need emission testing to renew your truck? just carious how you all that delete get away with it.

 

[gimmie11s]

I don't like rolling coal, it's bad tuning and obnoxious.

Smoky burn outs, twin turbos, superchargers, muscle cars, and 1000whp is also obnoxious.

Im not a particular fan of deleting, but Im sure as hell not going to go around acting holier than thou as if Ive never broken the speed limit or drifted across an intersection in a haze of tire smoke.

The guys that want to delete should be able to do as they please.


EDIT--Im as ass. Fixed to not be an ass.

 

[Brutal_HO]

Ok, double masker.

Smoky burn outs, twin turbos, superchargers, muscle cars, and 1000whp is also obnoxious.

Im not a particular fan of deleting, but Im sure as hell not going to go around acting holier than thou as if Ive never broken the speed limit or drifted across an intersection in a haze of tire smoke.

The guys that want to delete should be able to do as they please.

Why can't you have a reasonable argument without throwing personal insults?

He offered his opinion. No need to insult him over it.

SMH.

 

[gimmie11s]

Why can't you have a reasonable argument without throwing personal insults?

He offered his opinion. No need to insult him over it.

SMH.

Because his opinion is dumb?










fine... ill go back and edit it.


I should also add that to some double masking is not an insult, but high praise. Perhaps the shoe fits.

 

[Xflight29]

The ones that do a full delete are trying to keep from costly repairs on their trucks and they are tired of it, and I can genuinely sympathize with them as a diesel owner. However, any state or local officials can upload a federal emission law. All it takes is one employee or service provider or even a pissed off girl friend to report the matter, and you'll find yourself in hot water very quickly. The EPA can assess civil penalties of $$$$ per day. For me ALONE it's just not worth the worrie of it.

 

[GPurcell01]

Do you need emission testing to renew your truck? just carious how you all that delete get away with it.

Where I'm at, diesels are safety only. Gas cars all they do for an "emissions" check is plug in to the computer and make sure there are no emissions related codes.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Do you need emission testing to renew your truck? just carious how you all that delete get away with it.

Im not commercial so no testing needed also my testing guy will do a sniffer test for me which a deleted truck will pass…

 

[Brutal_HO]

Im not commercial so no testing needed also my testing guy will do a sniffer test for me which a deleted truck will pass…

Here in CO they only do an opacity (sniff) test, visual, and no emissions codes set.

With an emissions intact tune, they'd never know.

My 04.5 (micro cat only) passed for 16 years (tested alternate years) with a tune. When I had the Edge, it went to "stock." With the banks economind box, it passed on stock and #2 tow. never tried to pass on any others.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Here in CO they only do an opacity (sniff) test, visual, and no emissions codes set.

With an emissions intact tune, they'd never know.

My 04.5 (micro cat only) passed for 16 years (tested alternate years) with a tune. When I had the Edge, it went to "stock." With the banks economind box, it passed on stock and #2 tow. never tried to pass on any others.

After talking with the testing guy here he was telling me lots of guys forget their tuners on max and it still passes they only do the sniffer test here aswell

 

[camelbak]

I like my truck runing smog free I dont mind the cost of DEF my truck only has 6000 miles so far, maybe if i had problems with the system i would see things different as a dooms day prepper i would like to have the knowledge to run without DEF if i needed, understanding how would be valuable to me

 

[Shadowboxin20]

Well, I got banned from "the other site" because I saw tons of posts saying delete this, add that, buy this from this guy, get this from that guy and what I figured out was 1. The guys selling the fish oil were paying kick backs to the forum "owners" or... 2. The guys selling the fish oil WERE the forum owners. I am that guy.... I don't see the benefit of doing anything but visual mods... I read my 2022 owners manual pretty much cover to cover and one thing stood out... They clearly stated that ANY modification to the intake, or exhaust systems was ILLEGAL in all 50 states. So, its not just about warranty coverage now, its also about being legally held accountable. The 2022's even have an engine noise requirement placed on the vehicle by the EPA... what the noise has to do with the EPA I have no idea but basically no more cold air intakes, no more hearing your turbo spool and absolutely no muffler deletes.... You roll coal in my state and they will come impound your vehicle...LOL Can you take your chances? Sure... but big brother is cracking down on companies that sell "MODS" as well as the person installing them. In my state you must have your vehicle inspected and if you have an engine code within 60 days of inspection, (most mods produce some type of code) or you have a modified emissions system... you fail. 30 days to correct it or they pull your plates.

Thank god I live in the free state of Florida. Would been in jail two decades ago lol