Cummins Diesel

[KevoTheFord]

I’m just waiting for the 2021 2500’s to be available in Canada when I go to build my truck but I wanted to get some input from experienced people here to help me make my decision. I know both the Hemi and Cummins will work for my towing needs but the 2 lingering concerns I have from my VW diesels is how long they take to heat up and then the noise factor

I live near Toronto now and with my short commute I’m wondering how long the Cummins takes to heat up before it starts pumping out warm air. Anyone in colder winter climates have any input? My 2011 Jetta used to be halfway into my old 70km drive before it started pumping out heat. I know I can have it pre-hearing in the driveway which leads into the noise factor concerns with my obnoxious neighbor that used to complain about my Jetta before I replaced it.

 

[Frank]

36 degrees here today, about a 10 second delay on remote start. The heated seat and wheel get pretty hot pretty fast so waiting on the heater has not been much of an issue. Seems to be on par with any new vehicle. Daycare is less than a mile and work is another 3 miles and I can have it blasting during my commute.

When idling, my wife's family (who have all owned diesels) say it's the quietest they have heard. HOWEVER, when remote starting on cooler mornings a few times I have noticed mine get noticeably louder until I take over, but not what I would call obnoxious.

 

[Brutal_HO]

The diesel trucks have a supplemental electric cabin heater. Couple that with heated/cooled seat and steering wheel options and passenger comfort isn't an issue.

Neighbor, unless they're danger close, shouldn't hear the diesel.

If the Hemi fits the towing bill, why consider the diesel? Future-proofing your towing potential?

 

[KevoTheFord]

The diesel trucks have a supplemental electric cabin heater. Couple that with heated/cooled seat and steering wheel options and passenger comfort isn't an issue.

Neighbor, unless they're danger close, shouldn't hear the diesel.

If the Hemi fits the towing bill, why consider the diesel? Future-proofing your towing potential?

Part of it is future proofing, our trailer is 8000lbs dry (GVWR 10250), I'm not sure we will go bigger or not but maybe a 5th wheel in the future. Part of it is fueling when travelling around, it is a lot easier to fuel when towing when you can use truck lanes.

 

[yycdiesel]

that would be high idle kicking in until you touch the throttle.

36 degrees here today, about a 10 second delay on remote start. The heated seat and wheel get pretty hot pretty fast so waiting on the heater has not been much of an issue. Seems to be on par with any new vehicle. Daycare is less than a mile and work is another 3 miles and I can have it blasting during my commute.

When idling, my wife's family (who have all owned diesels) say it's the quietest they have heard. HOWEVER, when remote starting on cooler mornings a few times I have noticed mine get noticeably louder until I take over, but not what I would call obnoxious.

 

[Frank]

Part of it is future proofing, our trailer is 8000lbs dry (GVWR 10250), I'm not sure we will go bigger or not but maybe a 5th wheel in the future. Part of it is fueling when travelling around, it is a lot easier to fuel when towing when you can use truck lanes.

This may not be true where you live, but resale on diesels is much higher in my region. I mean stupid high. When I was looking at used ones 2 years ago 4 year old trucks with mid level trim and 100k miles were a shade under $50k.

 

[Wileykid]

Part of it is future proofing, our trailer is 8000lbs dry (GVWR 10250), I'm not sure we will go bigger or not but maybe a 5th wheel in the future. Part of it is fueling when travelling around, it is a lot easier to fuel when towing when you can use truck lanes.

If you are considering a 5th wheel, know that the diesel will reduce your payload by a large chunk. If you are considering a 5th wheel, and a diesel, a 3500 would be much better DAMHIK. Also a lot of short trips with the diesel is not supposed to be good, depending on who you are listening to.

Pulling a trailer with a gas engine is definitely more of a problem when gassing up, like you said, but with prior planning, it can be done without too much hassle. Heck, lots of people do it.

 

[yycdiesel]

If you are considering a 5th wheel, know that the diesel will reduce your payload by a large chunk. If you are considering a 5th wheel, and a diesel, a 3500 would be much better DAMHIK. Also a lot of short trips with the diesel is not supposed to be good, depending on who you are listening to.

Pulling a trailer with a gas engine is definitely more of a problem when gassing up, like you said, but with prior planning, it can be done without too much hassle. Heck, lots of people do it.

Also account for smiles per mile that come with the cummins.

 

[Brewbud]

Don't forget the added benefit of the exhaust brake.

 

[Brutal_HO]

If you are considering a 5th wheel, know that the diesel will reduce your payload by a large chunk. If you are considering a 5th wheel, and a diesel, a 3500 would be much better DAMHIK. Also a lot of short trips with the diesel is not supposed to be good, depending on who you are listening to.

Pulling a trailer with a gas engine is definitely more of a problem when gassing up, like you said, but with prior planning, it can be done without too much hassle. Heck, lots of people do it.

Heed this warning. a RAM 2500 diesel has pitiful payload.

The 3500 long bed is also available with a 50 gallon tank. Not sure they offer that in the 2500.

 

[Nick]

I will echo the the comments of others . If you are thinking of a 5th wheel later get the one ton HO . Factory air if you can budget it in . I have it and it works great !

 

[schlite60]

I have a 2020 3500 with H/O engine. I live in a Cul-de-sac with 6 other houses which every one; the master bedrooms face the street; except our house. One neighbor whose bedroom is nearly 35 feet away from where i park. She said it was quieter than the Titanxd with the isv cummins. I also work 3rd shift. I bought mine with 5th wheel towing in mind. There is allot of sound proofing in the vehicle and that is now a US govt standard.

 

[Bozo]

I’m just waiting for the 2021 2500’s to be available in Canada when I go to build my truck but I wanted to get some input from experienced people here to help me make my decision. I know both the Hemi and Cummins will work for my towing needs but the 2 lingering concerns I have from my VW diesels is how long they take to heat up and then the noise factor

I live near Toronto now and with my short commute I’m wondering how long the Cummins takes to heat up before it starts pumping out warm air. Anyone in colder winter climates have any input? My 2011 Jetta used to be halfway into my old 70km drive before it started pumping out heat. I know I can have it pre-hearing in the driveway which leads into the noise factor concerns with my obnoxious neighbor that used to complain about my Jetta before I replaced it.

Screw the neighbors, but with commi Trudeau, you would be jailed for going against his green agenda.

 

[Bozo]

I’m just waiting for the 2021 2500’s to be available in Canada when I go to build my truck but I wanted to get some input from experienced people here to help me make my decision. I know both the Hemi and Cummins will work for my towing needs but the 2 lingering concerns I have from my VW diesels is how long they take to heat up and then the noise factor

I live near Toronto now and with my short commute I’m wondering how long the Cummins takes to heat up before it starts pumping out warm air. Anyone in colder winter climates have any input? My 2011 Jetta used to be halfway into my old 70km drive before it started pumping out heat. I know I can have it pre-hearing in the driveway which leads into the noise factor concerns with my obnoxious neighbor that used to complain about my Jetta before I replaced it.

If you really want to pizz off the neighbors, buy a refurbed 2nd gen. And let that idle in the driveway!LOL!

 

[MikeXM]

Screw the neighbors, but with commi Trudeau, you would be jailed for going against his green agenda.

Exaggerating much? I'm no Trudeau's fan, but come on...

 

[MikeXM]

If you are considering a 5th wheel, know that the diesel will reduce your payload by a large chunk. If you are considering a 5th wheel, and a diesel, a 3500 would be much better DAMHIK.

Also account for smiles per mile that come with the cummins.

Don't forget the added benefit of the exhaust brake.

Those are very valid points!

Coming from a HEMI, the thing that surprised me the most is the exhaust brake. Such a game changer for towing. And obviously the Cummins is a beast for towing, but that was expected.

 

[DontSlamMyRam]

Mine exceeded expectations throughout last winter. As previously mentioned, between remote start, heated seats n wheel and cab preheater I didn't even have to scrape glass. That's after pulling a 12hr night shift, 0°f and the cooling towers pumping steam over it the whole time. The exhaust brake is amazing as well. I went 2500 since it has plenty of payload for my needs and I figured coils would ride a lil better. But if I was thinking 5th, 3500 is only choice. It really is a well thought out truck that I enjoy climbing into every time. I've owned many trucks but this is by far the most luxurious.