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Canopy blocks rear view mirror camera.

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I knew the canopy would block the rear view mirror camera, but we need the canopy. Reading here, I see that an alternative camera can be plugged into the trailer rear view camera port in the box that can then show up in the rear view mirror.
I've searched for someone's post laying out a solution to this problem, but did not find one. Ideas anyone?
 
I knew the canopy would block the rear view mirror camera, but we need the canopy. Reading here, I see that an alternative camera can be plugged into the trailer rear view camera port in the box that can then show up in the rear view mirror.
I've searched for someone's post laying out a solution to this problem, but did not find one. Ideas anyone?
It's an easy mod. Surprised you couldn't find any info as there used to be lots of info and how to. You only have to wire from the cargo camera outlet or plug (which in my 2020 is under the driver seat) to the rear of the canopy. All of your truck's cameras are the same so getting another camera is easy. There are two camera types, one if you have a surround camera system and one if you don't. The cabling is cheap and readily available.
 
John,
Do you know if the wired trailer camera is the same type as the cargo camera used for the rear view mirror. I have a jack for a trailer camera in the box (and on the rear bumper). I also received a box with the camera for the rear of the trailer and cabling in the back seat when I bought the truck. I've not found where you can toggle cargo camera vs rear trailer camera to display in the rear view mirror - that would be too easy.

If we get a nice day, I'll connect up the cable and camera for the rear trailer and see if the UConnect or mirror gives me an option to choose which camera to display.

I think I will miss the camera in the rear view mirror as my old school rear view mirror is often blocked by cargo in the box plus the rear canopy window is tinted and hard to see through.

I'm coming off a 2008 Laramie CTD I bought new. Thought I'd died and went to heaven when I got the 2008. This new truck is like Star Wars in comparison. I am just flat out amazed at this thing!
 
John,
Do you know if the wired trailer camera is the same type as the cargo camera used for the rear view mirror. I have a jack for a trailer camera in the box (and on the rear bumper). I also received a box with the camera for the rear of the trailer and cabling in the back seat when I bought the truck. I've not found where you can toggle cargo camera vs rear trailer camera to display in the rear view mirror - that would be too easy.

If we get a nice day, I'll connect up the cable and camera for the rear trailer and see if the UConnect or mirror gives me an option to choose which camera to display.

I think I will miss the camera in the rear view mirror as my old school rear view mirror is often blocked by cargo in the box plus the rear canopy window is tinted and hard to see through.

I'm coming off a 2008 Laramie CTD I bought new. Thought I'd died and went to heaven when I got the 2008. This new truck is like Star Wars in comparison. I am just flat out amazed at this thing!
Option #1: If your truck came with the "Wired Tow-Mode Camera" (XH7), the easiest option is just to use this camera. Once it's plugged in, it will enable an option to select this camera on your digital rear view mirror. (When the camera isn't plugged in, this option isn't available.) Here's a video showing this in operation. They start messing with the mirror around 5:30, and show the trailer camera around 7:40.
If your truck doesn't have the "Tow Technology Plus Group" with the additional cameras in the side view mirrors, you won't have the "split" or the "triple" view referred to in the video. You'll only have the truck and the trailer camera views.

If you go this route, you will have nearly 70 feet of cable to deal with. Plugging into the truck is a 13' cable that goes to a "signal repeater" box. Then there's another 55' of cable to go between the signal repeater and the camera. If you would like to reduce your cabling, the 55' cable uses standard fakra connectors and you can purchase shorter versions from amazon. The 13' cable uses a proprietary connector to the truck. It's not as easy to replace, but fortunately it's only 13 feet long.


Option #2: Replace the camera in your 3rd brake light with a remotely mounted camera. This option is a bit more difficult, but is what I would do if I planned on leaving a topper mounted on my bed. You'll need a coax cable with fakra connectors of the appropriate length, and a camera (P.N. 68506525AA). The cable is available on Amazon and should be < $20. The camera should run around $100.

The processor module for the cameras is under the driver's seat. The cable going to the camera in the 3rd brake light is labelled CHMSL (Center High Mounted Stop Light). Simply unplug this cable and plug in your new coax. Then on the other end of your coax, plug in the camera. The difficult parts are routing the cable from under the driver's seat to wherever you want to mount your camera, and mounting your camera.
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FYI - In 2023 Ram changed suppliers for the digital rear view mirror camera system. Anything you see on this forum referring to 2022 or older trucks "may" not apply to your 2024.
 
John,
Do you know if the wired trailer camera is the same type as the cargo camera used for the rear view mirror. I have a jack for a trailer camera in the box (and on the rear bumper). I also received a box with the camera for the rear of the trailer and cabling in the back seat when I bought the truck. I've not found where you can toggle cargo camera vs rear trailer camera to display in the rear view mirror - that would be too easy.

If we get a nice day, I'll connect up the cable and camera for the rear trailer and see if the UConnect or mirror gives me an option to choose which camera to display.

I think I will miss the camera in the rear view mirror as my old school rear view mirror is often blocked by cargo in the box plus the rear canopy window is tinted and hard to see through.

I'm coming off a 2008 Laramie CTD I bought new. Thought I'd died and went to heaven when I got the 2008. This new truck is like Star Wars in comparison. I am just flat out amazed at this thing!
I know nothing about the latest Rams with trailer cameras. So glad Cortex has given you all the answers.
 
Thank you CortexM0. This corroborates the use of the wired rear trailer camera plug in the bed.
I have the truck camera options to go with your Option 1 above.
The camera part number you reference, is that a Ram part?
I'm wondering if an OEM 3rd brake light with camera assembly like I have for the cargo camera, now covered up by the canopy, could be fabricated/modified to replace the 3rd brake light on my Leer canopy?
This is great info.
 
Thank you CortexM0. This corroborates the use of the wired rear trailer camera plug in the bed.
I have the truck camera options to go with your Option 1 above.
The camera part number you reference, is that a Ram part?
I'm wondering if an OEM 3rd brake light with camera assembly like I have for the cargo camera, now covered up by the canopy, could be fabricated/modified to replace the 3rd brake light on my Leer canopy?
This is great info.
The camera part number I gave is a Ram part. Unfortunately there are no other cameras known to work with the Ram mirror.

The "Wired Tow-Mode Camera" is nearly impossible to get. I don't know if you have a trailer, but if you use your trailer camera for this, don't expect to easily find a replacement for use with a trailer. I had ordered one with my 2023, but due to parts supply, they canceled that part of my order. I've been trying to get one ever since, but they're just not available. I ended up removing the camera from my 3rd brake light and relocating it to the back of my trailer. (More details on that can be found here: https://hdrams.com/forum/index.php?threads/tow-mode-camera-2022-vs-2023.13887/post-262619)

Here's one of the few pictures I took of the backside of the 3rd brake light assembly. Here I had the camera removed and a 3d printed dummy put back in it's place.
chmsl.jpg

As far as mounting options, you might want to take a look at this thread. https://hdrams.com/forum/index.php?threads/digital-rearview-mirror-with-truck-cap.3187/post-287984. Just be sure to keep in mind that your 2024 will use different cameras from 2022 and before. For comparison, here's a picture of the camera from the third brake light of the 2022 vs a 2023. 2023 on left, 2022 on right.
camera comp.jpg

But the trailer cameras are a different story. On the 2022 they used the same camera for the 3rd brake light and the trailer camera. For 2023+ they switched to a new camera for the trailer camera (which is a different part number from the new 3rd brake light camera and side mirror cameras). The PN for the trailer camera is 68506532AA. However, it appears the didn't want to design a new camera housing or mounting bracket. So instead there is a new mounting adapter that the camera snaps into. This allows it to use the same mounting holes as the 2022 trailer camera. Although it does end up being slightly larger. So your 2024 trailer camera "might" work with mounts designed for the 2022, if they have some extra room. (2023 trailer camera on left. 2022 trailer camera (with internal parts removed) on right.
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