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CA 2024 Electric HD Truck Rule

SQUATCH said:
Tesla swooped in and removes the unlock for that automatically through software update. Apparently it is non-transferable! How pissed would you be!???
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Oh I would be P.O.'d. That kind of thing kind of bothers me about all of these "connected" vehicles. How long will it be before things like cruise control or forward collision warning become subscription services?
 
jerryw1000 said:
From what I read a Tesla Modle S with brand new batteries will go 370 miles. THEN, after 370 miles, if (BIG IF) you can find a 240 Volt outlet, it takes 10 hours to recharge. That's just too much planning and not enough flexibility for me if I'm driving cross country.....or even across Texas in the middle of the night. I'll swap that 10 hour recharge for a 15 minute fill up any time. I'm sure the people who buy them love them. I would feel trapped by technology and wishing I had my Jeep or Ram. I guess it's all in what you call a road trip but 370 miles and a 10 hour wait for recharge IF there is a 240 volt outlet stuck up in the middle of nowhere Texas is not a road trip vehicle to me. When they get up to 600 miles on one charge dependably and can be recharged from an extension cord run out of a motel room in about 6 hours then I might consider one.
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I don't think that's the case at all with the supercharging stations popping up everywhere.

I'm not personally a fanboi or pushing them, but there's a lot of misinformation to be found regarding charging and range. The Latest Model S Long Range Plus is EPA rated for 402 miles. There are certainly a lack of supercharging stations in the remote areas outside major interstates, but they're fast tracking installations. For someone road-tripping in a car, it's not a stretch to expect to plan rest and food stops around charging opportunities that help to extend the range.
 
California, once.
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Also, the electric vehicle front is bubbling up to be the new marijuana fad within the stock market. The Cali push for clean trucks relates to the commercial industry, which hasn't been forced to change in years. Start up companies like Nikola Motors would have a great trucking solution if they could get a product to market. The claim involves breaking ground on a network of hydrogen fueling stations, at the end of this month.

I couldn't care less what my work truck was powered by, but it's important that my personal vehicle runs on fossil fuel. One of my hobbies in life revolves around the vehicles I own and what I've always known. I enjoy the integration of maneuverability and my senses, however a forceful change to my passion is where I draw the line. The sound and feel of combustion engine scientific ingenuity must exist. Had I grown up in a time when EVs were more prevalent, my opinion may be different.
 
brutal said:
I don't think that's the case at all with the supercharging stations popping up everywhere.

I'm not personally a fanboi or pushing them, but there's a lot of misinformation to be found regarding charging and range. The Latest Model S Long Range Plus is EPA rated for 402 miles. There are certainly a lack of supercharging stations in the remote areas outside major interstates, but they're fast tracking installations. For someone road-tripping in a car, it's not a stretch to expect to plan rest and food stops around charging opportunities that help to extend the range.
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Yeah one of the issues we ran into a few months ago involved PG&E and the Paradise fire. The overreaction on the monopolistic utility company resulted in nearly 3 weeks of power outages to get ahead of high winds. Tesla's limits were met when folks couldn't charge their vehicles and were stuck at home. These utility-based shut downs are an extreme version of EV technology issues, but Tesla has significantly upgraded their charging station networks. Musk is too strange for my liking, but as with any technology there are growing pains and learning curves.
 
.genomer said:
Yeah one of the issues we ran into a few months ago involved PG&E and the Paradise fire. The overreaction on the monopolistic utility company resulted in nearly 3 weeks of power outages to get ahead of high winds. Tesla's limits were met when folks couldn't charge their vehicles and were stuck at home. These utility-based shut downs are an extreme version of EV technology issues, but Tesla has significantly upgraded their charging station networks. Musk is too strange for my liking, but as with any technology there are growing pains and learning curves.
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One just has to haul a big ass diesel generator and fuel supply around with you and you're set!

:D
 
Talking about paying for options BMW will charge a yearly subscription for heated cooled seats maps with camera locations as well as other items. This is getting crazy

our power grid is already close to maxed out and we want to add more usage. Not a fan of electric cars trucks
 
It just seems foolish to have all your eggs in one basket anyhow, I have solar on my home, not because of some deep rooted desire to save the planet but because I live in southern kommiefornia and the electricity costs are insane, so it made economic sense as I would break even in 5 years and for the last 3 years I have had a net profit on electricity.

Now, we currently have the highest electric prices anywhere, what do we think will happen once they push everyone into electric vehicles exploding the demand....

And again, they turn the power off when it’s windy.... due to fire risk...

seriously!?!
 
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