Big Horn vs Laramie

[naplesbill]

It appears you fundamentally dont understand how payload works. It doesnt matter what youve "seen" or what you have heard they "start at". Below is how it actually works:

Payload is the numerical difference between GVWR and curb weight. I can build one with over 7k payload right now and have it delivered to my door in 3 months. See below.. 7680 lbs payload and 18,210 towing.





Im going to guess here, but that theoretical truck above is a dually with a GVWR of 14000 lbs. The truck weighs around 6300 lbs giving you ~7680 lbs of payload.

They do exist, and can be built exactly that way.

You sir clearly don’t understand how to find payload for a specific truck. Those payloads are max numbers with no options. If you don’t believe that, grab a VIN off any dealer website and punch it into the payload finder from the RAM website.

Go to the RAM towing guide and scroll to the bottom and click on look up my vehicle.

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[RV_Goose]

Going back to April 2020, The dealer had three 3500 HO dually I was interested in. The Tradesman had a payload of 5475. The Laramie had a payload 800 pounds less. And the Limited was 1200 less. All info from the door decals on those trucks. I just cannot see the option differences between the Tradesman and the Limited weighing 1200 pounds? The Laramie and Limited did have the airbags and onboard compressor.

 

[gimmie11s]

You sir clearly don’t understand how to find payload for a specific truck. Those payloads are max numbers with no options. If you don’t believe that, grab a VIN off any dealer website and punch it into the payload finder from the RAM website.

Go to the RAM towing guide and scroll to the bottom and click on look up my vehicle.

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Lol. Ok... you do you, fella.

What does "look up my vehicle" have to do with a theoretical max available payload?

This should be interesting...

 

[naplesbill]

Go ahead and ignore the official rated payload and towing for your truck AS CONFIGURED. You might never have a problem. But if you do and there is an injury, you will be at fault.

That VIN lookup will tell you exactly what the payload and towing is on your specific truck. It will not be the max numbers shown when you start the build and price. This is how all manufacturers work. You can find the same actual information on the yellow sticker in the driver door jamb. The payload number will be right above the rear pressure rating. There is also all the data you would need to calculate it manually yourself.

But if you have to be right, ignore all these facts and operate outside the legal limits of your truck.


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[naplesbill]

Going back to April 2020, The dealer had three 3500 HO dually I was interested in. The Tradesman had a payload of 5475. The Laramie had a payload 800 pounds less. And the Limited was 1200 less. All info from the door decals on those trucks. I just cannot see the option differences between the Tradesman and the Limited weighing 1200 pounds? The Laramie and Limited did have the airbags and onboard compressor.

Yes, all those safety systems, electronic nannies and fancy seats do add a lot of weight.


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[gimmie11s]

Go ahead and ignore the official rated payload and towing for your truck AS CONFIGURED. You might never have a problem. But if you do and there is an injury, you will be at fault.

That VIN lookup will tell you exactly what the payload and towing is on your specific truck. It will not be the max numbers shown when you start the build and price. This is how all manufacturers work. You can find the same actual information on the yellow sticker in the driver door jamb. The payload number will be right above the rear pressure rating. There is also all the data you would need to calculate it manually yourself.

But if you have to be right, ignore all these facts and operate outside the legal limits of your truck.


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No one is suggesting anyone do that. That's quite the stretch. ... fake news much?

What im suggesting is the fact that anyone can build a truck with over 6k payload, which you appear to not believe is possible.

 

[naplesbill]

No one is suggesting anyone do that. That's quite the stretch. ... fake news much?

What im suggesting is the fact that anyone can build a truck with over 6k payload, which you appear to not believe is possible.

You were actually claiming the max numbers were possible after building a truck. The only way that might happen is with zero options. Then you refuse to use a tool built by RAM to check your truck or any truck. Finally you ignored the fact that there is a sticker on the door that will also tell you.

This discussion was about a Laramie vs Big Horn. The Big Horn will almost certainly have more payload. But you could fully option a Big Horn against a base Laramie and they might be closer.

So find me a Laramie with a payload over 6k that can be verified.


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[gimmie11s]

You were actually claiming the max numbers were possible after building a truck. The only way that might happen is with zero options. Then you refuse to use a tool built by RAM to check your truck or any truck. Finally you ignored the fact that there is a sticker on the door that will also tell you.

This discussion was about a Laramie vs Big Horn. The Big Horn will almost certainly have more payload. But you could fully option a Big Horn against a base Laramie and they might be closer.

So find me a Laramie with a payload over 6k that can be verified.


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The max numbers ARE possible. They are not fairy tales. Ram could not legally advertise capability that is not physically obtainable.

My truck is not built yet. However, i bought a mega cab dually in Laramie trim. My payload will be in the mid 5000's. Suffice it to say, it is obvious to me (and anyone who has bought a HD truck in the last decade or 2) that you can buy or build a ram dually 3500 2x4 with 6k+ payload.

It's not rocket science. We're not cracking neutrons here.. its just basic math. Sorry youre offended by the facts.. ..

 

[Bigwalnuthoney]

Possible, yes. Common, no. Who wants a dually gasser? Let's call it a draw and move on.

 

[gimmie11s]

You were actually claiming the max numbers were possible after building a truck. The only way that might happen is with zero options. Then you refuse to use a tool built by RAM to check your truck or any truck. Finally you ignored the fact that there is a sticker on the door that will also tell you.

This discussion was about a Laramie vs Big Horn. The Big Horn will almost certainly have more payload. But you could fully option a Big Horn against a base Laramie and they might be closer.

So find me a Laramie with a payload over 6k that can be verified.


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Here ya go. Not sure why im wasting time with you, but maybe you will be able to understand this:


Below is a real truck for sale on autotrader, right now. Its payload is 6776 lbs. Yes, that is over 6k lbs which you seem to think is not possible.

Truck's VIN number is 3C63RPBL9MG527692. Go ahead and look it up yourself.

Autotrader - page unavailable

That autotrader link works... click and have a peek for yourself.

However. I challenge you to find a RAM with an actual payload of 6k. They start at something like 6700 lbs and go down with every option added to the truck.

Challenge accepted......

 

[naplesbill]

Here ya go. Not sure why im wasting time with you, but maybe you will be able to understand this:


Below is a real truck for sale on autotrader, right now. Its payload is 6776 lbs. Yes, that is over 6k lbs which you seem to think is not possible.

Truck's VIN number is 3C63RPBL9MG527692. Go ahead and look it up yourself.

Autotrader - page unavailable

That autotrader link works... click and have a peek for yourself.






Challenge accepted......

Here ya go. Not sure why im wasting time with you, but maybe you will be able to understand this:


Below is a real truck for sale on autotrader, right now. Its payload is 6776 lbs. Yes, that is over 6k lbs which you seem to think is not possible.

Truck's VIN number is 3C63RPBL9MG527692. Go ahead and look it up yourself.

Autotrader - page unavailable

That autotrader link works... click and have a peek for yourself.






Challenge accepted......

Dude, you are too funny. I don’t see where anyone here was looking at a regular cab truck. Not to mention that is a Big Horn. This is my last response to you on this. I never said it isn’t possible. But not on a Crew Cab Laramie. It would be difficult even on a Crew Cab Big Horn unless it was a complete stripper.

I should have been more clear to state we are talking about the truck options the OP is looking at.


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[gimmie11s]

All good man. I originally was trying to help and explain how payload works, but you wanted to continue arguing and moving the goal posts.

Oh well. Hopefully you learned something, but i doubt it.

 

[BWolfE84]

I like the Laramie. I had a 2019 1500 Laramie and it was great. Then I upgraded to the 2020 2500. I can say this, if I could have found a Big Horn Mega Cab in the entire state, I would have purchased that. Needless to say, I couldn't so the Laramie is what I got and the features are great.

 

[RV_Goose]

Possible, yes. Common, no. Who wants a dually gasser? Let's call it a draw and move on

A couple weeks ago I was refueling my 3500 dually, and a fellow pulls in with a regular cab long bed dually. Refuels his diesel and I asked what his payload was and he said over 7000.

 

[gimmie11s]

A couple weeks ago I was refueling my 3500 dually, and a fellow pulls in with a regular cab long bed dually. Refuels his diesel and I asked what his payload was and he said over 7000.

Impossible!!!

 

[naplesbill]

A couple weeks ago I was refueling my 3500 dually, and a fellow pulls in with a regular cab long bed dually. Refuels his diesel and I asked what his payload was and he said over 7000.

Notice the keyword being regular cab. This thread is not about a regular cab comparison as far as I can see.

Of course “he said” makes it anecdotal at best but it seems likely for a regular cab Dually.

Aren’t all dually RAMs long bed?


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[fathands]

Notice the keyword being regular cab. This thread is not about a regular cab comparison as far as I can see.

Of course “he said” makes it anecdotal at best but it seems likely for a regular cab Dually.

Aren’t all dually RAMs long bed?


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not if it's a mega cab dually...

 

[naplesbill]

not if it's a mega cab dually...

So what is the bed size on a Mega cab dually? Some custom size? I did not know this.


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[gimmie11s]

Mega cabs have the same length "short bed" as the crew cab short bed trucks. 6.4' or 76.8".

 

[RV_Goose]

So what is the bed size on a Mega cab dually? Some custom size? I did not know this.


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A mega cab dually is 9 inches shorter than my dually CC LB. Not sure it it is a 6'4" bed or a special bed for the mega cab.