BFG KO3 vs MT Baja Boss AT

[Razzman]

I'm running Wildpeak AT3's now, roughly 30k on them, and they drive me nuts. Someone warned me they get much louder with age - wish I listened. They perform great but, I'll give up some performance for a quieter tire. Any experience with Falken compared to what you're running now? Thanks

I researched real good and never heard anyone complain about them. I have Falken Wildpeak AT3's with about 25K on them now and I don't hear them at all unless the window is down, and even then it's barely audible. Still loving them as I did on day one.

 

[Razzman]

On my 1500 I had Wildpeak AT3/W's and I loved them. Unfortunately they are discontinued and I heard the AT4/W's are not as good as the AT3/W's. I have also considered the Toyo AT III but the Baja Boss AT is at the top of my list right now

huh I've heard the AT4/W's are better than the AT3/W. I know there's a few running them now on the forum.

 

[Brutal_HO]

The HD Terrain is a better tire for the PW. Wears better, awesome traction, and definitely no flat tires.

I know it's not the same tire, but I had a set of Rugged Terrain on my 04 CTD and they were trash. Busted belts on 2 front tires within 100 miles of each other and still OK on the wear bars.

 

[SolidAxleorBust]

Not sure what the Rugged Terrains are, but BFG made a Flat Trail T/A ( maybe it was long trail) came on Nissans, and just like the Dura Trash I had so many flat tires it was mind blowing. So not all BFGs are created =. The HD terrain is incredible though.

 

[WXman]

Does the BFG KO3 have the same feature that the A/T, A/T KO, and A/T KO2 had where they will dry rot in less than 5 years and drive the tire shop technician nuts trying to get them balanced? Asking for a friend.

On a serious note, I might try the KO3 next time if I find out that they aren't squares anymore and they wear better than the previous tires.

Currently I'm running Falken A/T4W and I've got 15k or more on them. I LOVE them just as much as the A/T3Ws I ran before. Excellent traction in all conditions. Crazy how well they hook up in rain. Smooth wear across the tread face. Balanced perfect and zero vibration at any highway speed. At the rate of tread wear I'm seeing they will surpass the tread life warranty. I have them in 35x12.50R18 and they were 71 lbs. on my bathroom scale which is dead even with other 35x12.50 tires in this category.

My cousin is currently finishing up a set of the Falken A/T3Ws on his Super Duty. He installed them around 67,000 miles. He currently has 139,000 on the truck I think. They are worn pretty bad but are still legal so he's going to try and make it through summer and then replace them in the fall. FANTASTIC tires.

Avoid anything Nitto/Toyo if you drive in rain or snow. Absolutely horrendous foul weather traction. The Ridge Grappler in particular is dangerous.

 

[Fantastipotamus]

I know it's not the same tire, but I had a set of Rugged Terrain on my 04 CTD and they were trash. Busted belts on 2 front tires within 100 miles of each other and still OK on the wear bars.

I had these as the OEM tires on my 2012 Titan Pro-4x, and they were indeed garbage. I think I got 12k or so out of them before they started visibly cracking on every sidewall. Sadly no tire life warranty. I don't think they make them anymore.

I did consider the HD Terrains, but they aren't '3 peak' snow rated whereas the KO3's are (and they were also a tiny bit more expensive).

Does the BFG KO3 have the same feature that the A/T, A/T KO, and A/T KO2 had where they will dry rot in less than 5 years and drive the tire shop technician nuts trying to get them balanced? Asking for a friend.

On a serious note, I might try the KO3 next time if I find out that they aren't squares anymore and they wear better than the previous tires.

Currently I'm running Falken A/T4W and I've got 15k or more on them. I LOVE them just as much as the A/T3Ws I ran before. Excellent traction in all conditions. Crazy how well they hook up in rain. Smooth wear across the tread face. Balanced perfect and zero vibration at any highway speed. At the rate of tread wear I'm seeing they will surpass the tread life warranty. I have them in 35x12.50R18 and they were 71 lbs. on my bathroom scale which is dead even with other 35x12.50 tires in this category.

My cousin is currently finishing up a set of the Falken A/T3Ws on his Super Duty. He installed them around 67,000 miles. He currently has 139,000 on the truck I think. They are worn pretty bad but are still legal so he's going to try and make it through summer and then replace them in the fall. FANTASTIC tires.

Avoid anything Nitto/Toyo if you drive in rain or snow. Absolutely horrendous foul weather traction. The Ridge Grappler in particular is dangerous.

I had KO2's on the aforementioned Titan and they wore fine, but I'm pretty good about rotating tires/alignment/air pressure checks. I have heard (possibly on here) that the KO3's can be challenging to balance, but that seemed to be early on in the production run when they were brand new? I haven't seen anything about that recently. I have a several hour highway trip two days after installing them, so rest assured I'll be checking the balancing on the highway right after install!

 

[Deleted member 47449]

I've run KO's and KO2's on our trucks. 33's KO3's are currently on our family's Toyoto Tacoma TRD. Lost our Jeep in Gunnison, Colorado with a new family driver during below negative 20F temperatures with less than 600 miles on KO2's. Spun around and hit a tree. The problem is that in below 0F temperatures they become rock hard and just slid around on our very dry powder Rocky Mountain snow. Only, became worse with age of the KO's and KO2's. Maybe the KO3's are better in extreme cold temperatures. They appear to have worked fine last winter on the Tacoma in Woodland Park, Colorado.

I'm running Toyo C/T's in 35's on our 2016 Tradesman Power Wagon and 33's on our 2024 3500 4x4 Tradesman Crew Cab SWR LB Cummins. Toyo A/T III's on our family's 2014 2500 4x4 Laramie Crew Cab Cummins. Haven't had any of the sliding on snow experience except with the 2014. I was towing a toy hauler on I-80 in Wyoming in winter conditions. Temperatures were below 0F. The trailer started to jackknife coming down a grade near Elk Mountain, but the truck gripped. Was able to get it back straight. Was doing around 25 MPH in a posted variable speed limit of 35.

 

[Ritchie_Rich]

Unless you are hardcore off road, a quality M/S tire would probably serve you better. Speaking from experience here.

 

[Deleted member 47449]

M/S with the 3PMSF rating tires is all that we run on all three of our 4x4 pickups. 3 ply carcass. A 1500, 2500, and 3500. 420 inches (35 feet average) snowfall within 18 miles on our home's rural Colorado highway recorded at our nearest NOAA weather station. Volcanic rock unpaved roads need the heavier carcass.

 

[stickshifter]

I'm currently running E-rated Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT tires (315/70 R17) on my Power Wagon. I've only had them since mid-April, but am really happy with them. The tread design is more like a Mud Terrain tire than your typical AT tire. They are great on Moab slick rock, and on rutted dirt roads. I have run a handful of trails rated "moderate" by OnX Offroad, and these tires are great in the rocks. I air them down to between 22-28 psi depending on the trail. They drive great on dry tarmac, and I don't think they are loud, but that's subjective. They seem good on wet roads, but I haven't tried to push them on wet roads (its an HD truck). No experience in the snow. There was one day in Moab when I drove them in mud - just to get into a campsite. It was that super-fine Moab sand turned to mud, which is like wet clay. The tire instantly caked-up, and I was sliding around. You've got to spin them pretty good to throw off the mud. No AT tire does well in mud, but I thought these might be a little better given the tread design. But that wet clay in Moab is tough to deal with. We live on a long dirt road, and these tires have big lugs that hold a lot of rocks.

I thought the original KO was garbage, and that kept me away from BFG for a long time. After a lot of research, I tried the KO2, and eventually put them on three mid-size trucks: the C-rated version on a 1997 Tacoma and a 2019 4-Runner, and the E-rated version on a 2017 Tacoma with aftermarket suspension (smoothing out the heavy tire). I've heard from a couple of folks, however, that it was not great tire for HD trucks, and that they wore out really fast.

Pros: On midsize trucks it was light for an E-rated tire, and quiet for having a relatively aggressive tread (for an AT tire). It was really good on washboard dirt roads, gravel roads, and on rocky trails. The E-rated version had super-thick sidewalls (for an AT), and it climbed rock really well when aired down. Holds small rocks and then hucks them when you get up to speed.

Cons: terrible in mud, but so are all AT tires. Some people complained about it on wet roads, but mine seemed fine. Living at over 8,000 feet in Colorado, we run winter tires, so I don't have a lot of experience with it in snow & ice, but I have driven it some through the snow, and it was pretty good. Late one April, after taking off my snows, I drove for three hours at around 10,000 feet on icy roads with a little snow cover, and was pleasantly surprised with the traction provided by the KO2.

The KO3 is supposed to be better on wet roads, and has some other improvements. I think this guy is the best tire-reviewer on the interwebs. Here is his comparison of KO2 vs KO3:

 

[Fantastipotamus]

Getting a set of KO3's in 315/70R17 installed on my PW next week. According to the Tirerack rankings, they're supposed to be very quiet (and actually very good overall) but who knows if there's a little payola involved by BFG. I had the KO2's on my Titan years ago and loved them, hopefully the next gen are even better.

Well, this still hasn't happened.

BJ's rec'd 3 of my 4 tires on time for the install, but the 4th 'got lost in shipping' somehow going to the store. Called and left a message, didn't push the issue as I was going on vaca out of state the next day.
Got home, called the local BJ's again, no answer/left message. Went down to the store and stood in the customer service area for 10 min or so, nary an employee to be found (didn't want to bother the shop workers).
Finally got a call back, they reordered the tire, should be in soon. Reschedule appointment.
Call me again, 4th tire still not in.. rescheduled appt again.
Repeat this 3-4 more times????????
Finally got a call on this Monday that the 4th was here, scheduled install for today (took time off work).
Show up, guy goes 'now for the fun part' *types on computer a bit* 'Yea, we can't install those, as they're >3% bigger than your current size'.. i was completely caught off guard. At no point in the last month did you think that maybe this was a check worth running?

Have the tires, but not sure if I just want to refund them since they're $100 less on tirerack and i still have to find someone to charge me $40/corner to mount and balance them. "Frustrating" doesn't really quite cover it.

 

[Fantastipotamus]

Got them installed at a local VIP tire center. They don't have a Road Force balancer, but they seem to have done a decent job. Truck bounces a bit at like 45mph, which is sort of odd, but I recall it doing that with the Duratracs initially as well. Smooth on the highway though, which is where a bad balance job is usually the most noticeable, so I'm going to put more miles on them and maybe have the dealer rebalance them in a thousand miles or so if needed at my oil change appt.

Tires seem great, they're very quiet which I love, look great. Currently running them at 55/50, but will be dropping that to 45/40, I think. Very happy w/ the look as well.