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Banks MAP sensor relocation kit

CharlieL

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Just got an advertising email from Banks for a MAP sensor relocation kit. Supposed to be designed to keep MAP sensor clean. Curious what everyone's thoughts would be on this.

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MAP Sensor Relocation Kit - Default Title - Banks Power

Protect your Cummins 6.7's MAP sensor from dirty exhaust gas and sticky oil buildup with a Banks MAP Sensor Relocation Kit. A contaminated sensor can cause inaccurate readings, adversely affecting fuel economy and power output. The small billet aluminum device relocates the sensor out of the...
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It would be interesting to see how one looks with 10k on it. It’s still going to catch some egr, and so will the new port it exposes. Interested to see what others think.
 
Odd, driving ram diesels since 2001, dont remember having issues with this or even replacing this particular part. And I kept my 01 for thirteen years..
 
BAT3500 said:
Odd, driving ram diesels since 2001, dont remember having issues with this or even replacing this particular part. And I kept my 01 for thirteen years..
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It’s a little bit different of an issue with EGR trucks, which your 01 was not. What year is your current truck?
 
Currently have 22 3500. First 6.7 was a 13 my that i drove for about 5 years. All kinds of sensor problems over the years, but not the map sensor.
 
I received the same mailer too, and was intrigued enough to do a little investigating - which is what led me to this thread. Here’s what I found:

According to the Banks website, the spacer for my 2019 3500/Cummins 6.7 is $79. This is to keep from having to clean or replace a sensor that retails for $94 for the OEM part, or $53 for an aftermarket. (https://www.genosgarage.com/product/ram-cummins-map-sensor-2897334/engine-sensors-4)

The alternative is to remove and clean it - for the cost of some MAP sensor compatible cleaner (which I already have in my garage.)

Other forums have had posts (Duramax, not Cummins) which noted that while the spacer performs as advertised, now instead of the sensor being fouled, the spacer hole gets plugged up, resulting in incorrect pressure readings. According to them, it’s harder to unplug the spacer hole than to clean the sensor; essentially trading one problem for another.

Since the sensor is easily accessible (according to the Banks website for installation of their spacer, “Requiring only a minute or two to install…”), this seems like a simple decision for me.
 
I have the Banks spacer and it mounts the sensor upside down, with the electrical connector the lowest point of everything. Two days ago I had a MAF code, P0107, pop up. When I removed the sensor it was full of clear water, shorting the sensor out. I drove the Ram looking for a new sensor and it shut down on the highway and I had to disconnect the batteries and short the cables to clear the memory so the engine would start and bring me home.
Any ideas on where the water came from? I haven't been in wet conditions for quite some time.
 
maybe just condensation from cold starts?
 
The Map sensor on my 2018 caused my truck to shutter at all speeds. cleaned it and never had a problem ever again.

honestly, this isnt needed. in 300k of driving these trucks ive never had a sensor issue minus the 2018 and it was a simple clean and put back in.
 
I'm thinking that my problem isn't a sensor problem, it's a Banks standoff mount problem. Itremoves the sensor from the hot air flow, mounts the sensor on the bottom of a sinkhole and the sensor on the bottom of the sinkhole, with no way to remove the condensation from the sensor.
It's finally stopped raining, so I plan on removing the Banks mount and will see.
 
FWIW, while Banks (and many other aftermarket sellers) have their fair share of snake oil products, they also have plenty of legit, quality, useful products. Cases in point, Banks iDash, Banks Pedal Monster, and a wide variety of quality tuners. On my 06 5.9, I had a Banks iDash, Economind tuner, full Banks exhaust, and the Banks exhaust brake and ALL of it was quality equipment that made a world of difference in performance.
 
I don't disagree on the iDash or PM, but the Economind and Banks IQ I had on my 04.5 HO were utter sh*t. The IQ locked up all the time and several reloads of it under Banks Tech Support's direction never fixed it. They would no longer repair it, just tried to sell me something else.

The EB worked, but kinda sucked having to install a vacuum pump, and their trans commander and the IQ prevented anything else from using the OBD. I should have installed the Pac-Brake. At least I'd have had a small compressor on board.

Quality tuners? Like the Derringer that's been in development for going on 5 years now?
 
Brutal_HO said:
I don't disagree on the iDash or PM, but the Economind and Banks IQ I had on my 04.5 HO were utter sh*t. The IQ locked up all the time and several reloads of it under Banks Tech Support's direction never fixed it. They would no longer repair it, just tried to sell me something else.

The EB worked, but kinda sucked having to install a vacuum pump, and their trans commander and the IQ prevented anything else from using the OBD. I should have installed the Pac-Brake. At least I'd have had a small compressor on board.

Quality tuners? Like the Derringer that's been in development for going on 5 years now?
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I don't have any experience with the IQ but my Economind tuner was great, for many years and many towing miles. The only trouble I ever had was finding good enough adhesive velcro strips to keep the damn thing attached to the plastic fuse panel box for more than a few months. LOL

And yeah, I know their Derringer for the 2019+ trucks (or lack thereof) has become somewhat of the going joke lately, but the Derringer seems to be well-liked by those who have a truck they can actually use it on.

Oh, and I also had the Banks Ram-Air intake on my 06 and that worked great too. Suffice it to say, my experience with Banks products in general has been very good. I intend to buy a Pedal Monster as soon as I financially recover from this Christmas-- too many grandkids puttin' me in the poorhouse. Sheeesh.
 
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