OLEJOE
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Mine also.
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Automatic Regen too often
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I'ld been having the the frequent regens. Anywhere from 120 to 180 miles between. Multiple trips to the dealer. No explanation.
At all the suggestions I bought the Archoil treatment. Two tanks of 6400 D (two doses). First regen after the first bottle was 210, but I had pulled a flatbed... didn't think much of it. Next regen was also at 210, but it was on the 2nd bottle and I was on a 200 Mile highway round trip to southern Indiana. That regen took 18 miles and was early in the trip. Currently sitting at 340 miles without a regen, and the first section of the DPF gauge just filled.
The archoil is doing something.
At all the suggestions I bought the Archoil treatment. Two tanks of 6400 D (two doses). First regen after the first bottle was 210, but I had pulled a flatbed... didn't think much of it. Next regen was also at 210, but it was on the 2nd bottle and I was on a 200 Mile highway round trip to southern Indiana. That regen took 18 miles and was early in the trip. Currently sitting at 340 miles without a regen, and the first section of the DPF gauge just filled.
The archoil is doing something.
oledirteh
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friday i changed my fuel filters and then ran up north with a trailer and F150 in tow and went into my 24hr regen. on the way back filled the tank and used a bottle of the archoil cleaner. ran through 3/4's of a tank and my dpf gauge still show's 0% 
OLEJOE
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Your DPF should be clean as a whistle running the Archoil and towing. The Archoil must have cleaned my whole system out good too. I’ve noticed my e brake doesn’t have any lag in it whatsoever. Im currently running the first tank of the every tank additive after running the cleaner. 678 miles and 17 hours since the last regen and gauge has been on zero the whole time.
Someone mentioned that diesel loses cetane when the fuel temperature gets higher and that may be the reason our trucks don’t passively regen as well in hot weather.
DougB
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Since I ordered some Archoil, Facebook "saw" this and now shows me coupons for AR6500 diesel treatment.
20% discount on only the Archoil AR6500 treatment. Does not apply to the cleaner or the combo cleaner/treatment. Use Coupon: MAXIMIZE
I cannot post screenshot of the ad due to work firewall. I am in no way affiliated with Archoil. If this post is not allowed, mods, kindly delete.
20% discount on only the Archoil AR6500 treatment. Does not apply to the cleaner or the combo cleaner/treatment. Use Coupon: MAXIMIZE
I cannot post screenshot of the ad due to work firewall. I am in no way affiliated with Archoil. If this post is not allowed, mods, kindly delete.
OLEJOE
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My DPF gauge moved up to 12.5% or 1/8 today @ 751 miles and 19 hours since my last regen. I was almost home so I didn’t have time to see if I could make it passively regen.
Another vote here for Archoil. I have been struggling with constant Regens for months now and haven’t been able to go 150 miles without a regen if not towing. Added the fuel system cleaner and so far I’ve gone 350 miles, no regen and dpf down to 55% full. I also had the dealership “clean the injectors” which was probably a waste of money and I also switched from the fleet guard to the mopar air filter about 1 or 2 Regens before Archoil. Both orange foam, no glue strips, and correct part numbers on air filters.
I can’t say 100% it was just the Archoil, but I’m about 95% certain it was. I do feel like I still have some weird issues as the dpf% will shoot up as I get on the highway, but now it will at least come back down if given enough time driving.
I can’t say 100% it was just the Archoil, but I’m about 95% certain it was. I do feel like I still have some weird issues as the dpf% will shoot up as I get on the highway, but now it will at least come back down if given enough time driving.
I have a 2019 2500 with the 6.7. We have been having the issue with it going into regen every 100-200 miles since they changed out the fuel pump early last year. Its been in the shop at least 3 times now and for 7 weeks just on the current occurrence. I've been going round and round with the service people, dealer (who is trying to sell me a new truck) and FCA customer service to get this thing fixed. I got a letter from FCA that says they have extended the warranty on the emissions components to 10 yrs and 120,000 miles. Dont know if my complaining had anything to do with it or not but I'm waiting to hear back from FCA customer service about the current status of repairs. I could take back my truck and drive it like it is but I can't drive an extra 10 to 60+ miles every 100-200 miles to clear the regens. And if you think about it, every excessive regen wears down that additional mileage warranty. I'm not very happy right now.
OLEJOE
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With your truck regening every 1-200 miles, you had better keep a close eye on your motor oil. Don’t even think about going the 15K miles or one year between changes. Regening causes fuel dilution. Fuel dilution can cause regens when the oil gets thinned down and the engine starts consuming the oil. Diesel is not a sufficient lubricant for engine bearings, lifters or anything else.
steve49
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The warranty extension is from the Cummins emission scandal.
DougB
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My DPF gauge, too, goes up quickly when I go over 60mph. Takes a while at 70-75 for it to come back down. It’s as if it runs it worse around 60-70 mph and creates more soot there than slower. Above that speed is less soot and maybe offset slightly by higher temps in exhaust. #shrug
oledirteh
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ran through a tank of archoil cleaner that i put in saturday. today refilled the tank and added the every tank archoil. so far im 10 hours in and about 480 miles and the gauge is at 0% still. fuel milage is looking pretty good too. mostly highy at 70-83mph 
That’s pretty common, most folks that have commented on that says theirs behaves the same way, mine included.
T143
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We will probably do just a few short trips to show off after we received the 3500, but she will just do long distance and towing a lot.
There is a few Banks goodies I want but gearbox mods get preference before engine mods just battling to communicate with some of the suppliers in America from Australia, nobody seems to have email contacts on their websites.
Sorry forgot to mention we use FTC Diesel Decarbonizer for soot build up so will have it ready when the big Ram gets home.
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So I have to ask, as my truck goes back in soon for the regeneration issue, since the architect appears to be working for a number of people, is there any chance this is a fuel system related issue (calibration or delivery). I'm just wondering because at first they blamed the extra glue on the air filters, which changed nothing, then other parts, then we weren't driving hard enough, etc.
I'm not saying the archoil doesn't work, but I am saying we shouldn't have to spend more money on an additive to essentially bandage an issue on $100k dollar truck.
Another note, I do have less codes while running lower at lower coastal altitudes than I do at my home at 8k feet. Take that for what it is, but I have noticed it.
I'm not saying the archoil doesn't work, but I am saying we shouldn't have to spend more money on an additive to essentially bandage an issue on $100k dollar truck.
Another note, I do have less codes while running lower at lower coastal altitudes than I do at my home at 8k feet. Take that for what it is, but I have noticed it.
If you’re trying to get in touch with Banks directly, shoot me a private message and I can help make those connections for you.
Fueling calibration and delivery may indeed be part of the problem. However, I would expect more users would be experiencing issues if the software was at fault. Although, many users may not be paying attention to the regeneration cycles. They may be having issues but are unaware of it. Thats the problem with this problem, it can hide itself very easily if the operator isn’t paying attention, and moreover will not always generate a DTC. My own truck has never generated a P2459 but I can tell you it has been regenerating more than it necessarily should simply because I monitor all of my trucks functions very closely (sometimes to a fault). The data is a good way to see what the truck is doing, rather than simply relying on DTC’s. Which is what most dealerships will do. No DTC? = “operating as designed”
oledirteh
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can you ask gale when he's going to come out with his amazing deringer for the 6.7 lol.
depending on trim, some trucks you cant even monitor the dpf i think. may be wrong. i was amazed that my buddys top of the ecoturd didnt have the ability to see any of those stats
My reach doesn’t go that high….but I can help make connections if there’s an issue with their products. There’s a few members here who work directly for Banks. I try not to advertise that publicly as to buffer them from undue hassle or complaining but they do indeed strive incredibly hard to provide top notch customer service.
Every 2019+ truck has the ability to see the soot level in the DPF using factory gauges. The only factor that is different is that the 23+ models with the fully digital instrument cluster do not provide regular notice messages when the truck goes into an active regeneration cycle. They only provide intervention strategy messages if there’s a problem with regeneration.
oledirteh
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gotcha. yea i wouldnt advertise those people lol. i was invited by my friend to a banks facebook group and its pretty hectic there.