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6.7 Engine Air Filter Confusion

Have a 2022 Ram 2500 Cummins and didn't realize this issue until I put in a new air filter and then it threw the particulator code, after being to the dealer the second time they finally said, need to have a Mopar Air Filter installed, didn't have them do it as I figured I could buy a Mopar one cheaper and install myself. Found this thread and read through it, ordered the Fleetguard one, and been running fine and then check engine came on again with same error. Does it take a while to clear out after the new filter has been installed? This is annoying.
It may take a little while to get everything back to normal. But I would monitor and see what happens in a week. If it continues, you’ll want to have your truck checked out by a competent dealership as yours is likely experiencing an independent issue. What error code did you mean by “particulator code” ?
 
It may take a little while to get everything back to normal. But I would monitor and see what happens in a week. If it continues, you’ll want to have your truck checked out by a competent dealership as yours is likely experiencing an independent issue. What error code did you mean by “particulator code” ?
P2459 Diesel Particulator Filter Regeneration Frequency
 
P2459 Diesel Particulator Filter Regeneration Frequency
I would recommend taking it in and having it checked out by a dealer that’s competent with these trucks. There have been an increasing number of 2022 trucks with that same DTC. I have a contact who is an extremely experienced Ram diesel tech. He was telling me the other day he’s seen several of these same issues at his location. He suspects that there may have been a change in the media used in the DPF itself and they’re going to pull one apart and look it over. In any case you’d want this issue noted in case it is reoccurring or leads to further action. I would try and perform a parked regeneration, then have you run the truck and see what happens. You need a baseline of back pressure across the DPF when the system is cleaned out, then drive it as you normally would. If the truck continues to trip into constant regeneration then your problem lies elsewhere. Could be something as simple as a boost leak in the charge air system, or more complex like a faulty injector at the engine or malfunctioning differential pressure sensor in the DPF itself. My friend also mentioned that Ram’s current diagnostic procedure for addressing this issue is lackluster at best, and doesn’t follow the best practice for finding the problem. There are so many different avenues that can lead to a regeneration frequency problem that it isn’t an easy one for unfamiliar techs to try and diagnose and most dealerships ultimately end up tossing parts at it in random orders and never truly get it right.
 
Why would you pay the dealership to install the wrong filter?
You have to assume that they're going to install the right one, no? If they don't it's their problem. I was out $50 bucks because my truck didn't like the one that I installed. Plus all of the time screwing around trying to figure out which one will work.
 
You have to assume that they're going to install the right one, no? If they don't it's their problem. I was out $50 bucks because my truck didn't like the one that I installed. Plus all of the time screwing around trying to figure out which one will work.

I don’t make any assumptions about dealership work. Sometimes it’s unavoidable (warranty), and sometimes it’s best to just do your own (servicing).

Paying dealer prices for a filter swap is not something I subscribe to, especially knowing that the dealers are often installing the wrong part right now.
 
You have to assume that they're going to install the right one, no? If they don't it's their problem. I was out $50 bucks because my truck didn't like the one that I installed. Plus all of the time screwing around trying to figure out which one will work.
I would say you’re placing too much faith in the dealer. I’d venture to say the vast majority of the dealerships are going to look at the parts catalog and install the 68517554AA in the truck because that’s what their system tells them to do. Most aren’t going to read the “tech tip” that says to actually use the 53034051AB. And even if they do, their network will likely show the correct filter is on extended backorder. So you’ll either get the wrong mopar filter, or you’ll get a cheap knock off aftermarket like a Wix which can also easily cause issues. Your best bet is to order the Fleetguard AF27684 yourself from a reputable supplier like Genos Garage or your local Cummins engine shop, and put that in your truck yourself. The fleetguard AF27684 and the mopar 53034051AB are identical and are the only two filters you should be running in these trucks. Period. Your mileage may vary wildly with aftermarket ones. There have been a plethora of issues with these trucks using anything but those two filters.
 
On my '21 I have been having a p2459 code every 600 miles. I brought it in to be seen not long after having my first p2459 code repaired because my oil test report said I have 10 percent fuel in the oil. Dealer said to keep driving it and to bring it back for them to service and do their own oil sample. I noticed my milage went down on the lie o meter and that it seemed to regen excessively. I then had my second excessive regen code. I have had 3 p2459 codes in the last 15-1800 miles and am unable to smog it because of codes and ECU flash. The dealer kept flashing the ECU with the tune for a truck that does not regen enough according to service writer. They gave it back and said no concern but wrote on the ticket that it had a NAPA air filter in it and the tech bulletin said that was the cause. Here I am 600 miles later taking it back to the shop.

It would regen 3 times a day in freeway miles. I can watch the DPF gauge climb while accelerating on the freeway. The truck ran for 9000 miles with that filter with no issue.

They will not consider any of my suggestions, like turbo line oil leak, injector, boost leak. They said they can only do what FCA advises. Then said they need to keep it again and drive it again and may have to "throw parts at it". I should never have suggested possible solutions as now I am "that guy". If I didn't care about the warranty or live in CA, I'd repair it myself and delete it. Glad it was the WIX filter
 
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On my '21 I have been having a p2459 code every 600 miles. I brought it in to be seen not long after having my first p2459 code repaired because my oil test report said I have 10 percent fuel in the oil. Dealer said to keep driving it and to bring it back for them to service and do their own oil sample. I noticed my milage went down on the lie o meter and that it seemed to regen excessively. I then had my second excessive regen code. I have had 3 p2459 codes in the last 15-1800 miles and am unable to smog it because of codes and ECU flash. The dealer kept flashing the ECU with the tune for a truck that does not regen enough according to service writer. They gave it back and said no concern but wrote on the ticket that it had a NAPA air filter in it and the tech bulletin said that was the cause. Here I am 600 miles later taking it back to the shop.

It would regen 3 times a day in freeway miles. I can watch the DPF gauge climb while accelerating on the freeway. The truck ran for 9000 miles with that filter with no issue.

They will not consider any of my suggestions, like turbo line oil leak, injector, boost leak. They said they can only do what FCA advises. Then said they need to keep it again and drive it again and may have to "throw parts at it". I should never have suggested possible solutions as now I am "that guy". If I didn't care about the warranty or live in CA, I'd repair it myself and delete it. Glad it was the WIX filter
Given the 10% fuel dilution in your engine oil, I would suggest doing some diagnostics and testing of the injectors. You may have one or more malfunctioning. Keep in mind that the injectors can be the cause of the Regen frequency issue from two different angles. If they’re overfueling, then you’re going to get more unburned hydrocarbons passed downstream in to the DOC / DPF which will cause a faster than normal increase in soot loading. At the same time, when the truck sees the DPF filling and engages a soot load based active regeneration cycle, those same overfueling injector(s) are now responsible for dosing fuel in during the exhaust stroke in order to drive up DPF temperatures and burn out the soot. This is a double whammy when it comes to saturation of fuel in the engine oil, and if left unchecked could result in a fairly aggressive wearing of the rotating components and the hydraulic valve train. Cummins made a huge mistake in choosing to use the engine injectors for the regeneration process. So much so that I feel that may be the true Achilles heal of these engines. Far more so than hydraulic lifters.
 
On my '21 I have been having a p2459 code every 600 miles. I brought it in to be seen not long after having my first p2459 code repaired because my oil test report said I have 10 percent fuel in the oil. Dealer said to keep driving it and to bring it back for them to service and do their own oil sample. I noticed my milage went down on the lie o meter and that it seemed to regen excessively. I then had my second excessive regen code. I have had 3 p2459 codes in the last 15-1800 miles and am unable to smog it because of codes and ECU flash. The dealer kept flashing the ECU with the tune for a truck that does not regen enough according to service writer. They gave it back and said no concern but wrote on the ticket that it had a NAPA air filter in it and the tech bulletin said that was the cause. Here I am 600 miles later taking it back to the shop.

It would regen 3 times a day in freeway miles. I can watch the DPF gauge climb while accelerating on the freeway. The truck ran for 9000 miles with that filter with no issue.

They will not consider any of my suggestions, like turbo line oil leak, injector, boost leak. They said they can only do what FCA advises. Then said they need to keep it again and drive it again and may have to "throw parts at it". I should never have suggested possible solutions as now I am "that guy". If I didn't care about the warranty or live in CA, I'd repair it myself and delete it. Glad it was the WIX filter
I had a similar issue with my last truck (not a RAM) the dealer kept throwing parts at it and the truck was at the dealer for extended amounts of time. It sounds like you cant smog it which means you cant renew the registration. I got tired of the whole situation on mine and did a lemon law on it. CA has the best lemon laws in the country.
 
I ordered a 53034051AB and they sent me a 68517554AA

The AB that came in the truck is considerably nicer in quality than the AA

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@Rockcrawlerdude that’s very common. The sellers on Amazon / EBay are often mopar parts warehouses that are looking at the same misinformation as the dealers.
I’m sure you’re right that’s common when old part numbers are superceded. Had my fingers crossed that I would get an AB filter.

Call me crazy but There is a difference in the filters. First, the pleats are not glued together on the AB and they are on the A. but, the main difference is in the metal mesh on the AB has ridges stamped in it which gives it rigidity and the AA doesn’t have that so the mesh is flimsy
 
I’m sure you’re right that’s common when old part numbers are superceded. Had my fingers crossed that I would get an AB filter.

Call me crazy but There is a difference in the filters. First, the pleats are not glued together on the AB and they are on the A. but, the main difference is in the metal mesh on the AB has ridges stamped in it which gives it rigidity and the AA doesn’t have that so the mesh is flimsy
Pics comparing.

My non scientific eyeballs think the orange filter is better quality.

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I ordered a 53034051AB and they sent me a 68517554AA

The AB that came in the truck is considerably nicer in quality than the AA
The 53034051AB is a higher cost at some places. I bought mine at Genos $37 for either but Rock Auto lists both filters for the 2022 6.7 Cummins the AA for $40 and the AB for $54. Who did you order from?
 
Pics comparing.

My non scientific eyeballs think the orange filter is better quality.

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I agree completely. I think the AB is a better / sturdier filter all the way around. Which would stand to reason why it’s used specifically for the diesel. These Cummins trucks demand a lot of air. It’s not uncommon to see a lot of aftermarket inferior filters getting collapsed. If the build quality isn’t there, they won’t hold up. This was posted in a different post / thread a while back:IMG_2254.jpeg
Perfect example of why it’s not worth trying to save / skimp a few bucks on something as critical as an air filter. I don’t recall what brand that filter was but it was obviously not up to the task.

Also, the AA is not a supersession for the AB or vice versa. They are, and always have been, two totally independent air filters for two totally different applications. AB is for 2019 and up 6.7 Cummins. AA is for 2019 and up 6.4 Hemi.
 
The 53034051AB is a higher cost at some places. I bought mine at Genos $37 for either but Rock Auto lists both filters for the 2022 6.7 Cummins the AA for $40 and the AB for $54. Who did you order from?
Amazon. I reached out to them as there was a $7 difference between the part I ordered and the part I received. They issued me a $15 promo code for my next order and that was satisfactory to me.
 
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