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5w40 vs. 10w30 vs..... 5w30?

AH64ID said:
Hasn’t ever been an issue changing the Donaldson’s for me. My 2018 was a little more difficult, but the 2022 is easy to change.

There isn’t a good way that I’ve found to come from bottom on these trucks with the “new” crossmember, so I go thru the fender.

If you want fluted then I’d run the Amsoil as it has better specs than the Fleetguard, but nothing beats the Donaldson.
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good to know about the amsoil filter. i can just order it when i order the oil. never used the filter cause i havnt heard anything on them. cool thanks for the info.
 
oledirteh said:
good to know about the amsoil filter. i can just order it when i order the oil. never used the filter cause i havnt heard anything on them. cool thanks for the info.
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The Amsoil used to use the Donaldson media, but now they have another media that’s good but not quite as good. Either way it’s also always been a great filter that’s capable of the long OEM intervals and beyond.
 
AH64ID said:
The Amsoil used to use the Donaldson media, but now they have another media that’s good but not quite as good. Either way it’s also always been a great filter that’s capable of the long OEM intervals and beyond.
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Pretty sure the new “Amsoil” EAO80 is a Fram Synthetic Endurance FE3976A. Both are the same 99% @ 20 micron rating and by external appearance they’re identical, save the labeling. Someone posted one cut open side by side and they looked identical internally as well. Of course I can’t find that post. It might have been a social media post but I can’t remember now. As much as I’d like to think the “better” Fram (Amsoil) should be fine, I just feel better buying a Fleetguard or Donaldson product. Fram has never been a name synonymous with a quality product from my personal experiences.
 
mbarber84 said:
Pretty sure the new “Amsoil” EAO80 is a Fram Synthetic Endurance FE3976A. Both are the same 99% @ 20 micron rating and by external appearance they’re identical, save the labeling. Someone posted one cut open side by side and they looked identical internally as well. Of course I can’t find that post. It might have been a social media post but I can’t remember now. As much as I’d like to think the “better” Fram (Amsoil) should be fine, I just feel better buying a Fleetguard or Donaldson product. Fram has never been a name synonymous with a quality product from my personal experiences.
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Well that would be a bummer. Aside from my Cummins all the oil filters I use are Amsoil.
 
AH64ID said:
Well that would be a bummer. Aside from my Cummins all the oil filters I use are Amsoil.
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Yeah I was bummed when I saw it as well. Definitely some compelling evidence to suggest it’s true. Some of the filter manufacturers make it very difficult to obtain actual specifications for their products anymore.
 
mbarber84 said:
Yeah I was bummed when I saw it as well. Definitely some compelling evidence to suggest it’s true. Some of the filter manufacturers make it very difficult to obtain actual specifications for their products anymore.
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I was pretty sure I read Amsoil was making them themselves, but I alao know that some are made in china.
 
Dumb question. Would using a non mopar branded filter give them any reason at all to void a warranty claim ?
 
AH64ID said:
Hasn’t ever been an issue changing the Donaldson’s for me. My 2018 was a little more difficult, but the 2022 is easy to change.

There isn’t a good way that I’ve found to come from bottom on these trucks with the “new” crossmember, so I go thru the fender.

If you want fluted then I’d run the Amsoil as it has better specs than the Fleetguard, but nothing beats the Donaldson.
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Even on the hoist you cant get it from the bottom through the fender is much better than taking the truck apart from the top like some do….
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
Even on the hoist you cant get it from the bottom through the fender is much better than taking the truck apart from the top like some do….
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I took the 18 apart from the top, but the 22 is easier thru the fender. Neither are quite as nice as the 05, but the frame and suspension improvements are definitely worth the little extra work with an oil change.

I have a plug for the filter that makes pulling it out the fender clean and quick.
 
AH64ID said:
Have you tried that on your new truck yet?
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Nope, I haven't done it yet. I have all the stuff to do it-- 3 gallons of T6 5w40, a Fleetgaurd LF16035, and the fancy-schmancy anti-spill filter plug-- but I'm waiting to hit 5k miles before I dump it. Since reading through the past several posts I now realize that the under-the-truck method I employed regularly on the 06 ain't gonna work on the 24, so apparently, through the fender I go.
 
through the fender is pretty easy on the 24's. they moved some stuff around it seems just enough to allow a ton of clearance through the fender. i had 0 issues and a ton of room to work. the only issue i had was with the fact they had to have used a impact to put the factory filter on when new.
 
oledirteh said:
through the fender is pretty easy on the 24's. they moved some stuff around it seems just enough to allow a ton of clearance through the fender. i had 0 issues and a ton of room to work. the only issue i had was with the fact they had to have used a impact to put the factory filter on when new.
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Yea the OEM is always too tight, when installed properly you don’t need a filter wrench to remove usually just a rubber glove for grip
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
Yea the OEM is always too tight, when installed properly you don’t need a filter wrench to remove usually just a rubber glove for grip
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Yeah, I have never needed anything besides my hands to take a filter off.

If you need a wrench, it was on too tightly to begin with.
 
oledirteh said:
the only issue i had was with the fact they had to have used a impact to put the factory filter on when new.
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Oh good, that'll be fun. As long as I have enough room to work through the fender with a ratchet and a filter socket, I should be ok to get it off. The new one will go on with a gloved-hand, and then probably the Donaldson un-fluted can would work fine. But since I already have a stock of three LF16035 filters in the shop its gonna be while before I try a Donaldson.
 
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ErikTheRed said:
Oh good, that'll be fun. As long as I have enough room to work through the fender with a ratchet and a filter socket, I should be ok to get it off. The new one will go on with a gloved-hand, and then probably the Donaldson un-fluted can would work fine. But since I already have a stock of three LF16035 filters in the shop its gonna be while before I try a Donaldson.
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You can see it if you look in the passenger side fender
 
ErikTheRed said:
Oh good, that'll be fun. As long as I have enough room to work through the fender with a ratchet and a filter socket, I should be ok to get it off. The new one will go on with a gloved-hand, and then probably the Donaldson un-fluted can would work fine. But since I already have a stock of three LF16035 filters in the shop its gonna be while before I try a Donaldson.
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It will not be easy to use a filter socket, you’ll want a filter wrench.

My 22’s OE filter was easy to remove, my 18 on the other hand had major can damage by the time I got it off.
 
56ram2500 said:
The extra valve train noise with temps in the mid 20 at start up after truck sitting 3 days compared to using 5w40 in same temp range with truck siting for over a week....
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Never experienced that issue on mine, and it’s had 10w30 in the sump since the first oil change. 3 years and 53k on it now, and oil changed every 10k. Our winters usually see lows in the teens, with some occasional single digits. Zero valve train noise at any point. What brand of 10w30 were you using?
 
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