52 Gal fuel tanks Titan or S&B likes/dislikes of both units

[JustARam22]

I got my S&B 52 gallon talk on Thursday. Hope to do it sometime in the next couple days. Anyone know how to drain the tank almost to empty with out driving it? I'd like to pump it almost dry before removing it.

Just did mine today..... Honestly anything below a 1/4 tank isn't really that heavy.

After dropping mine I just emptied it into a 5 gallon bucket, then added it to the new tank. Did this a little over 2 times.

 

[jeffn]

I went with a Fleece lift pump when I installed my Titan. Worked great, until it didn’t, put maybe 50k miles on it. I pulled the Fleece unit out and installed a new OEM unit. Fleece has a warranty but you have to send the unit back to them. I wasn’t going to wait around for a few weeks while they bench tested the fuel pump. So now I run a stock fuel pump with a Titan tank. I do not notice a difference.

 

[Steevo]

After several trips with my Titan 52 gal. tank, I can say I am happy with it. Just got back from a trip to Calif from my home in Idaho, and it sure is sweet to never have to think about a fuel stop and only stop when and where you want to.

I do have some feedback for anyone using the Titan 52 gal tank with the stock sending unit.
1. Due to the sender being mounted so low, and there being so much fuel above the top of the float travel, it will go over 300 miles before the gauge ever moves off of full. This also means that all of the "Range XXXX" readings are pretty questionable during this time (see pic). This was at an average of about 20mpg, so the first fifteen gallons are gone when the gauge drops to the F mark, so the remaining 37 gallons are now what sits between F and E on the gauge. So, when you hit the half tank mark, you have about 18 gallons left, not half of 52, so be aware.

2. When the fuel level drops below the 1/4 tank mark, the Range drops about 2 miles for every one mile travelled (running 80mph at 20mpg avg). If you believe it when the "Range" tells you that you have 400 miles of fuel at 1/4 tank, you could find yourself running out if there isn't a fuel station closer to 200 miles down the road.

Despite the need to compensate for the fuel level/range discrepancies, it sure is fine to be able to drive over 12 hours without a fuel stop (with no load).

I am looking forward to hauling the 5th wheel and not needing to find fuel between overnights, since we usually only go 300-400 miles a day when towing.

 

[AFF]

Just did mine today..... Honestly anything below a 1/4 tank isn't really that heavy.

After dropping mine I just emptied it into a 5 gallon bucket, then added it to the new tank. Did this a little over 2 times.

I did mine yesterday. Took 4 hours in the driveway and I had ran it down to empty. There was 10 liters left in the tank (2.5 gallons) However when I went to fill up I discovered a fuel leak on the inlet hose. I guess I put the hose clamp on a bit crooked or not in the right spot. Removed the drive shaft again and tried fixing it but it didn't help. So a buddy with a hoist is going to fix it for me today.
Oh and should I mention it was a costly day. I forgot to block my tires when I took the drive shaft off the first time. Truck rolled, dented my tailgate that was down, hit my camper (no damage) and drove over my iPhone 14 Pro max I just bought last Tuesday.

 

[AH64ID]

Oh and should I mention it was a costly day. I forgot to block my tires when I took the drive shaft off the first time. Truck rolled, dented my tailgate that was down, hit my camper (no damage) and drove over my iPhone 14 Pro max I just bought last Tuesday.

Yikes.

Another good reason to always use the parking brake. At least you didn’t get run over.

 

[jeffn]

After several trips with my Titan 52 gal. tank, I can say I am happy with it. Just got back from a trip to Calif from my home in Idaho, and it sure is sweet to never have to think about a fuel stop and only stop when and where you want to.

I do have some feedback for anyone using the Titan 52 gal tank with the stock sending unit.
1. Due to the sender being mounted so low, and there being so much fuel above the top of the float travel, it will go over 300 miles before the gauge ever moves off of full. This also means that all of the "Range XXXX" readings are pretty questionable during this time (see pic). This was at an average of about 20mpg, so the first fifteen gallons are gone when the gauge drops to the F mark, so the remaining 37 gallons are now what sits between F and E on the gauge. So, when you hit the half tank mark, you have about 18 gallons left, not half of 52, so be aware.

2. When the fuel level drops below the 1/4 tank mark, the Range drops about 2 miles for every one mile travelled (running 80mph at 20mpg avg). If you believe it when the "Range" tells you that you have 400 miles of fuel at 1/4 tank, you could find yourself running out if there isn't a fuel station closer to 200 miles down the road.

Despite the need to compensate for the fuel level/range discrepancies, it sure is fine to be able to drive over 12 hours without a fuel stop (with no load).

I am looking forward to hauling the 5th wheel and not needing to find fuel between overnights, since we usually only go 300-400 miles a day when towing.

Agree on #1.

I have a different behavior on #2. In my 2020 3500 the DTE does not start decrementing until the fuel gauge moves off full. So, in my case, the DTE stays pegged at 350-400 (my MPG is 10-13, typically) and winds down when the fuel gauge starts moving. I will never be 400 miles of range with 1/4 tank. When the gauge is moving, the DTE is reasonably accurate.

I have AlphaOBD but have not bothered to recalibrate my computer. I use the trip computer to manage range, I reset on fillup and know I will get around 570 miles from a full tank. 70k miles, it has never been a problem.

 

[henrys]

Looks like S&B added a 60 gallon tank option: https://sbfilters.com/products/60-gal-tank-cummins

 

[T143]

I have a few questions.
I was looking into long range tanks even before I bought my 3500. Looking at the above 60Gal tank there is too many variables with accuracy of the gauge but the 52Gal seems to be working very accurate where it counts when you are running low when using the fleece pump but using OEM pump it looks to be less acurate but better than the 60Gal is this the correct conclusion I got from the info here so far?

Is the Fleece engine cooling bypass kit worth it? Seems like it to me.

 

[JustARam22]

52gal is definitely off, even with making the adjustments with alphaobd the gauge drops pretty quickly below half a tank.

Can't speak to the bypass kit

 

[T143]

52gal is definitely off, even with making the adjustments with alphaobd the gauge drops pretty quickly below half a tank.

Can't speak to the bypass kit

Thanx, thats tough because the fuel gauge is off as standard, I can do about 100km after the gauge shows dead on empty and the dash says it cant calculate distance anymore, thats towing and then when I fill up I am still 6litres short. So there is lots of safety build in and that is a good thing. Is there a genuine 52Gal tank available?

 

[JustARam22]

Thanx, thats tough because the fuel gauge is off as standard, I can do about 100km after the gauge shows dead on empty and the dash says it cant calculate distance anymore, thats towing and then when I fill up I am still 6litres short. So there is lots of safety build in and that is a good thing. Is there a genuine 52Gal tank available?

From Ram? To my knowledge no, they only offer a 50gal.

 

[wrvond]

Perhaps I missed it somewhere along the way but, is the OEM 50 gal tank too expensive? Not available? Or will it not fit a 2500 short bed?
What makes an aftermarket tank that doesn't seem to work quite right more desirable than an OEM tank?

 

[Dodgeman]

Perhaps I missed it somewhere along the way but, is the OEM 50 gal tank too expensive? Not available? Or will it not fit a 2500 short bed?
What makes an aftermarket tank that doesn't seem to work quite right more desirable than an OEM tank?

The 50 gal OEM tank is not available with a short bed.

 

[Dodgeman]

Looks like S&B added a 60 gallon tank option: https://sbfilters.com/products/60-gal-tank-cummins

Rats! 8 months too late. I have the 50 gallon Titan and like it. But 60 gals would be nicer. Another 75 miles between fills pulling the 5th wheel.

 

[rauan]

Rats! 8 months too late. I have the 50 gallon Titan and like it. But 60 gals would be nicer. Another 75 miles between fills pulling the 5th wheel.

The link states that 60G tank is for long bed truck. If your signature is correct you have short bed megacab, like I do and you can install only 55g tank.

 

[Dodgeman]

The link states that 60G tank is for long bed truck. If your signature is correct you have short bed megacab, like I do and you can install only 55g tank.

Thanks, missed that. Now I only feel half as disappointed - missed five extra gallons instead of 10.

 

[Will_T]

The link states that 60G tank is for long bed truck. If your signature is correct you have short bed megacab, like I do and you can install only 55g tank.

Thanks, missed that. Now I only feel half as disappointed - missed five extra gallons instead of 10.

Interesting how specific the Titan tanks are. I have the CCSB and their tank for that is 52 gallons. Not only does the mega cab give you more upstairs space, but you get 3 extra gallons of fuel!

 

[AH64ID]

Is the Fleece engine cooling bypass kit worth it? Seems like it to me.

I don't think it is worth it for most applications.

It comes with a 180° thermostat compared to the OE 190° thermostat. That means that under normal loads the 180° thermostat will be doing the temperature regulation and the block won't ever get up to normal operating temp, which could actually throw a code (thou I am not sure of the threshold for temperature rationality CEL's) and will also have a slight impact on fuel economy/efficiency. The bypass would be much better suited with a 210° thermostat that only opens after the OE 190° thermostat is fully open at 207°.

Unless you are making a lot more power and a lot more rpms than stock you just don't need a coolant bypass kit.

 

[JHC1]

Not to hijack this thread but I am purchasing the Titan 55 gallon tank for my Ram 3500. But, I am having a problem finding someone to update the computer with the new volume. I live in Central Texas. Suggestions? Thank you.

 

[johnmyster]

Not to hijack this thread but I am purchasing the Titan 55 gallon tank for my Ram 3500. But, I am having a problem finding someone to update the computer with the new volume. I live in Central Texas. Suggestions? Thank you.

Anyone with alpha obd can set it to 50gal or whatever the larger stock size was for your chassis.