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3500 gas vs diesel resale value

I think he is saying two 5 year old trucks each having 100k miles. The Cummins is worth more for sure....and I bought a Hemi.

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hunterjoe said:
That's actually 20k per year. Does that change your mind?
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Sorry I misread it as 2.5 instead of 2 5 year...
If I'm driving that much (I am), the 6.7 would be a better choice if not for the emissions equipment. Know a guy that replaced a def pump on his 2017 6.7, $2000. Those types of repair cost tilt the scale for me. If I was towing a 12k+ whatever, I would opt for diesel unless I switched to Ford. In that case I think the 7.3 presents overlap with the PS. I prefer the diesel towing experience, especially the added range with the small 31 gal CCSB tank.
 
raven_dt said:
Sorry I misread it as 2.5 instead of 2 5 year...
If I'm driving that much (I am), the 6.7 would be a better choice if not for the emissions equipment. Know a guy that replaced a def pump on his 2017 6.7, $2000. Those types of repair cost tilt the scale for me. If I was towing a 12k+ whatever, I would opt for diesel unless I switched to Ford. In that case I think the 7.3 presents overlap with the PS. I prefer the diesel towing experience, especially the added range with the small 31 gal CCSB tank.
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Yep. If you drive a lot of miles, and longer trips, plus tow heavy there is no question. For my use case, it just doesn't make sense to get a diesel. The Hemi will outlast the body for how I will use this truck. And I'm really hopeful this is the truck I have for 10 years. Best I've ever made was 7 years. Once because I needed a bigger truck (Dakota extended cab) and the second, because I wanted a new truck for my 40th. Ha ha. Love my '19 1500, but we've simply outgrown the payload on it.
 
raven_dt said:
$56,167 (diesel)−$47,006(gas)=$9,161 delta
So if the diesel is a $9400 option then you have lost money on your diesel "investment". That doesn't even factor in diesel fuel cost, def, possible emissions costs, fuel additives, fuel filters, 12qt oil changes, etc...
I love diesels but most people buy diesels because that's what they want not because it makes financial sense.
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Ah, gotcha. Factually correct, yes. However, that narrows the "diesel tax" at new purchase from $9400 to $239 which seems like a bargain considering the added capability.
 
jebruns said:
You're not figuring this right. You need to consider the percentage delta between the price paid for the truck when new and when it was sold. Just for round numbers, lets say you loose 30% of the original sale price overall on the gasser when you go to sell it or trade it. So you then compare the gasser to diesel, there should only be 70% of the diesel option price difference between 2 equally equipped trucks. I've always found it's more like 90% or more of the diesel's original price. That's why I said I wish the rest of the truck held its value as well as the diesel option does.
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And this...

Good point.
 
Another reason I went with the diesel is that when I'm shopping for the 5th wheel and see another one I really like and weighs more than what I thought I would get, I don't have to say "I should have" to myself.
 
So if I would have bought a 2020 diesel instead of my gasser...My truck would be sitting at the dealer for 6 months waiting for an old CP3 to replace my newer CP4, or I could just tow my 35,000 lb 5th wheel from Ohio to California in limp mode! I would be camping in Sunny California in about 3 years. The good news is once my truck is repaired I will be able to sell it for a ton of dinero!

You boys and girls make me laugh which is a good thing! Let the debate continue, just mark me down in the category of "buy what you want/need/can afford.
 
Eatonpcat said:
So if I would have bought a 2020 diesel instead of my gasser...My truck would be sitting at the dealer for 6 months waiting for an old CP3 to replace my newer CP4, or I could just tow my 35,000 lb 5th wheel from Ohio to California in limp mode! I would be camping in Sunny California in about 3 years. The good news is once my truck is repaired I will be able to sell it for a ton of dinero!

You boys and girls make me laugh which is a good thing! Let the debate continue, just mark me down in the category of "buy what you want/need/can afford.
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lmao! I like it.
 
Eatonpcat said:
So if I would have bought a 2020 diesel instead of my gasser...My truck would be sitting at the dealer for 6 months waiting for an old CP3 to replace my newer CP4, or I could just tow my 35,000 lb 5th wheel from Ohio to California in limp mode! I would be camping in Sunny California in about 3 years. The good news is once my truck is repaired I will be able to sell it for a ton of dinero!

You boys and girls make me laugh which is a good thing! Let the debate continue, just mark me down in the category of "buy what you want/need/can afford.
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Unless that 35,000 was a typo.. you ain't pulling that with a Gas powered anything lol.
 
Eatonpcat said:
So if I would have bought a 2020 diesel instead of my gasser...My truck would be sitting at the dealer for 6 months waiting for an old CP3 to replace my newer CP4, or I could just tow my 35,000 lb 5th wheel from Ohio to California in limp mode! I would be camping in Sunny California in about 3 years. The good news is once my truck is repaired I will be able to sell it for a ton of dinero!

You boys and girls make me laugh which is a good thing! Let the debate continue, just mark me down in the category of "buy what you want/need/can afford.
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Yep, that's true, Ram really messed the bed on that one. And is why I don't recommend anyone buying a CP4 pump truck unless it's been updated. Not a valid reason on the current trucks though.
 
I'd been sniffing around Ram trucks since about summer 2019 when my 2012 Duramax took a dump on me, and yes, the CP4 pump issue. So the CDJR lots had 2019's and maybe some 2020's here and there. When I learned that both years had CP4 fuel pumps, I started dragging my feet. I actually told a dealer in Wichita that I would possibly still be interested in a gas 3500 but no diesels. The sales manager acted like I was the biggest dumbass on earth and knew absolutely nothing about trucks. Truth be told, he knew absolutely nothing about diesels. When I started talking about CP3 and CP4 pumps it was obvious he didn't have a clue what I was talking about. But he still thought I was the dumbass. So I left and waited for Ram to put this CP4 pump deal behind them. When the '21's came out and it was confirmed that the pump issue had been rectified, new trucks basically didn't exist and orders were uncertain so I waited until last December and finally ordered a new one to give the Cummins a shot. So far so good. I really like the truck.

All that said, I definitely still see the value in gas HD trucks. I just traded off a 3500 SRW gas truck that I will miss, it just didn't have what I want for pulling big loads coast to coast. And probably the biggest issue I had with it, nobody ever talks about - getting to a gas pump with a big trailer. With a diesel you can always pull through the big truck islands at any truckstop, whether it's the big chain stops along the interstate or even smaller stops with diesel. I've been at gas pumps with a long trailer and I've bullied other people out of my way to get to the pump and to get back out. I've stood at an empty pump telling everyone that tried to pull up there that it's my pump and I'm waiting for the guy blocking the other adjacent pump while he's inside taking a C-store vacation to come out and move his car so I can get my rig up to the pumps to gas up. Not much fun.

In the end though, I'd say forget about resale and buy what you want. The money all seems to come out close enough to the same that it's not worth stewing about.
 
jebruns said:
Yep, that's true, Ram really messed the bed on that one. And is why I don't recommend anyone buying a CP4 pump truck unless it's been updated. Not a valid reason on the current trucks though.
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He was being sarcastic, but ok?
 
jebruns said:
I realize that, but it was also true. Looks like the CP3 recall pumps are finally starting to show up though.
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I guess it depends on how handy the potential owner is.

Knowing Ram is/was reimbursing for owner-installed CP3's I would not hesitate myself.
 
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