2023 2500 Limited - What is your favorite grid heater delete + intake manifold + grid heater combo>?

[relbus]

I intend to delete the grid heater on my 23 immediately. I was one of the unlucky ones who had an engine failure due to this issue on my 2013, so I am paranoid to say the least. I thought the engine was covered to 100k, but recently learned the grid heater falls under 3yr/36k and if it fails and takes out my engine I am SOL.

Anyway - I want a complete solution. If the intake horn/manifold is coming off, its getting replaced. I also insist on having a heater back on the truck. Banks looks to be a very complete kit, but the injector line failure stories have me spooked a bit.

I have no experience with BMP, but their plenum looks nice, and it appears they machine the stand offs on the plenum as opposed to most who include spacers to mount the fuel rail. They offer a heater that can be used with the OEM intake manifold/horn or their manifold.

Is there any others I should consider?

 

[relbus]

Also - I am not interested in the BD solution. The OEM heater still gets all sooted up, and if I am digging in that far to install the BD might as well do it my preferred way.

 

[Diller]

I wasn't overly impressed with the BMP machining quality for their CAT fuel filter conversions so I landed on the GDP heater plate. Installed before this winter and seems to be doing a good job down when temps have dropped into the teens. I haven't deleted the stock grid heater yet so no comment on the replacement plenum plate.

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[relbus]

I wasn't overly impressed with the BMP machining quality for their CAT fuel filter conversions so I landed on the GDP heater plate. Installed before this winter and seems to be doing a good job down when temps have dropped into the teens. I haven't deleted the stock grid heater yet so no comment on the replacement plenum plate.

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Glacier Diesel Power is proud to present our newest proprietary grid heaters. Now available and compatible with your emissions systems. These state-of-the-art heaters are the most efficient on the market, delivering the essential heat your truck needs in challenging climates to ensure reliable...

www.glacierdieselpower.com

I had the GDP horn, plenum, and that heater on my 2008 back in the day. Worked great! I honestly cant remember if I had to replace that injector line to run it. What intake horn are you using? Does your truck have the EGR system still? I also considered this heater, but I am emissions present. Was not sure that would fit with TV. I know it would work if deleted.

 

[Drumminguy81]

im going with a hybrid, as you mentioned the black market heater delete plate has the machined stand offs as well as having the sensor moved to the oem location rather than using an extension harness like banks. so i ordered their plate. it looks awesome. I also picked up a used banks horn with the grid heater for a steal that i will use with the bmp delete plate. i really wanted to go with the bmp intake horn too but for the price it didnt look like any improvement over using the oem horn and just drilling/tapping for a heater. I have yet to install any of this so cant speak to anything as far as that goes.

 

[Diller]

I had the GDP horn, plenum, and that heater on my 2008 back in the day. Worked great! I honestly cant remember if I had to replace that injector line to run it. What intake horn are you using? Does your truck have the EGR system still? I also considered this heater, but I am emissions present. Was not sure that would fit with TV. I know it would work if deleted.

I am running the stock intake horn however the EGR system has been removed. It is intended to work with the stock TV or deleted.

 

[TJY]

I wasn't overly impressed with the BMP machining quality for their CAT fuel filter conversions so I landed on the GDP heater plate. Installed before this winter and seems to be doing a good job down when temps have dropped into the teens. I haven't deleted the stock grid heater yet so no comment on the replacement plenum plate.

Glacier Diesel Power | 2007.5-2024 Dodge Ram 6.7L Cummins Mega-Flo Sta

Glacier Diesel Power is proud to present our newest proprietary grid heaters. Now available and compatible with your emissions systems. These state-of-the-art heaters are the most efficient on the market, delivering the essential heat your truck needs in challenging climates to ensure reliable...

www.glacierdieselpower.com

I was planning on buying and installing both the GDP plenum plate and GDP Grid Heater you installed. How is it working? Happy? Any regrets? I plan to keep the factory intake horn.

 

[johnmyster]

Smedding makes a horn with heater plug, probably the same plug as the banks.

S&B has promised a kit to be released soon. Again, same heater plug. Their projected price has me interested.

 

[TJY]

Smedding makes a horn with heater plug, probably the same plug as the banks.

S&B has promised a kit to be released soon. Again, same heater plug. Their projected price has me interested.

I don't want to deal with the cylinder 1 fuel line issues Banks is having and don't plan to make all of the other modifications it would likely take to make a larger intake horn worthwhile performance wise so for me it seems like the GDP plenum plate and grid heater would make more sense, but that's why I'm asking here too. Always a bonus to get feedback from other guys out there that have done this stuff already and can share what they've learned.

 

[johnmyster]

I don't want to deal with the cylinder 1 fuel line issues Banks is having and don't plan to make all of the other modifications it would likely take to make a larger intake horn worthwhile performance wise so for me it seems like the GDP plenum plate and grid heater would make more sense, but that's why I'm asking here too. Always a bonus to get feedback from other guys out there that have done this stuff already and can share what they've learned.

I think the banks fuel line issue is overhyped on the Internet by a few squeaky wheels.

I’ve also heard of people modifying the stock horn, rather cheaply, with a threaded insert to except the plug heater

 

[TJY]

Fuel line issue may be over hyped, but the weak single glow plug/heating element is also causing issues in cold weather too. For $1k I expect a seamless and flawless product. S&B has virtually the exact same thing as Banks for $599.

 

[johnmyster]

Fuel line issue may be over hyped, but the weak single glow plug/heating element is also causing issues in cold weather too. For $1k I expect a seamless and flawless product. S&B has virtually the exact same thing as Banks for $599.

S&B has released to market?

Weak starting in cold weather?

 

[TJY]

S&B has released to market?

Weak starting in cold weather?

I've seen the S&B for sale online, so yes. And yes, weak starting in cold weather and throwing codes in cold weather for some with the Banks.

 

[johnmyster]

I've seen the S&B for sale online, so yes. And yes, weak starting in cold weather and throwing codes in cold weather for some with the Banks.

As long as we aren't jumping on the dark iron bandwagon. My ram made it through the most recent winter with grid heater completely disconnected. I would expect that even the plug heater would be sufficient for a few additional degrees in latitude.

 

[cturtle]

Have a GDP plenum with a heater delete, live in the South so the cold weather was not a concern. Love it - no problems, did not put the fuel rail line padding back on, very minimum sound impact other than really getting on it.

 

[TJY]

As long as we aren't jumping on the dark iron bandwagon. My ram made it through the most recent winter with grid heater completely disconnected. I would expect that even the plug heater would be sufficient for a few additional degrees in latitude.

No bandwagon here at all....

 

[TJY]

Have a GDP plenum with a heater delete, live in the South so the cold weather was not a concern. Love it - no problems, did not put the fuel rail line padding back on, very minimum sound impact other than really getting on it.

That's what I'm most tempted to do. I'm in central NC so we do have a few weeks with temps in the teens at night and twenties in the morning, but I can't see that being a real issue. How did you avoid the constant CEL and codes with the grid heater disconnected/gone?

 

[ErikTheRed]

I thought the engine was covered to 100k, but recently learned the grid heater falls under 3yr/36k and if it fails and takes out my engine I am SOL.

I'm very curious about this part..... sure doesn't sound right to me.....

 

[TJY]

I'm very curious about this part..... sure doesn't sound right to me.....

I discussed it with my dealer, and they told me it would be covered up to 5yr/100k. No idea if RAM/Cummins would agree and I've seen it both covered and denied online. I do the old wiggle test every few weeks for peace of mind.

 

[CFE]

Smedding makes a horn with heater plug, probably the same plug as the banks.

S&B has promised a kit to be released soon. Again, same heater plug. Their projected price has me interested.

Eager to see if anyone has ran the Smeding grid heater delete kit without the horn. I just want a low cost option to delete it, as I'm not doing it for any hopeful performance gain... Just longevity of my engine.