1st time towing 5th wheel.

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<div class="bbWrapper">So I now there are a number of variables with in this question but curious on others experiences. I have a 2020 3500 Ram tradesman, high output CTD, DRW, long bed. Picked up a 17,000 GVWR (at time of towing probably around 15,900 lbs) 5th wheel. I have a B&amp;W hitch in the truck and the MORYDRE Pin box on the 5th wheel. I was all excited for a smooth tow but I was receiving a lot of bucking while towing. Not sure if this is normal, or if it was just due to the trucks shifting and downshifting. Would like to hear if anyone else has experienced anything similar and if there is any advice on things to check. Thank s in advance.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">You will feel some all the time. The amount depends on the roads, truck and trailer. There are various air pinboxes for the trailer, and various air 5th wheel hitches for the truck. Is it noticeable, yes. is it bothersome? not to us. As soon as it is I will buy an air hitch like this <a href="http://www.trailersaver.com/air-ride-suspension-hitches/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" data-proxy-href="/forum/proxy.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trailersaver.com%2Fair-ride-suspension-hitches%2F&amp;hash=044897dac37034f703cb9483543bc391" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.trailersaver.com/air-ride-suspension-hitches/</a><br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.etrailer.com/question-247016.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" data-proxy-href="/forum/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.etrailer.com%2Fquestion-247016.html&amp;hash=7edf19c6af1cb4c2413e9cc1584defd6" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.etrailer.com/question-247016.html</a> - explains it well. <br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="jDDQ4oMGeV4"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jDDQ4oMGeV4?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div> - video<br /> <br /> One solution - <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="ecAcQLnxT6c"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ecAcQLnxT6c?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Are you using air bags? My first tow with a 14k 5er was pretty sloppy and unpleasant. After I installed bags and run at around 65# it really stiffened things up. Night and day difference, I’ll never tow a 5er without air suspension again.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">The Moryde should stop most of the chucking . Get an Airide pin box that addresses both chicken g and bounce . Although your truck can handle the weight no problem a set of airbags reduces the jarring effect to a degree .</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 5719" data-quote="jzellers" data-source="post: 43106" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=43106" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-43106">jzellers said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> So I now there are a number of variables with in this question but curious on others experiences. I have a 2020 3500 Ram tradesman, high output CTD, DRW, long bed. Picked up a 17,000 GVWR (at time of towing probably around 15,900 lbs) 5th wheel. I have a B&amp;W hitch in the truck and the MORYDRE Pin box on the 5th wheel. I was all excited for a smooth tow but I was receiving a lot of bucking while towing. Not sure if this is normal, or if it was just due to the trucks shifting and downshifting. Would like to hear if anyone else has experienced anything similar and if there is any advice on things to check. Thank s in advance. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>My situation is very similar to yours. I have the MORYDE pin box, but I am a little lighter than you with a SRW 3500. I was experiencing more bucking than what I thought should be normal. It felt like the truck and fifth wheel trailer were fighting each other. I noticed that the truck was down on the overload springs, so I installed a pair of after market air bags to level out the truck. The bags helped to smooth out the ride quite a bit. <br /> <br /> I am shopping for a new truck right now (a dually) and I am debating whether I should order the truck with the air bags or to go with after market bags. I would like to go with a Reese Goose Box also which will help even more because it has an air bag and shock system.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Take it through a CAT scale and post up your numbers. Sounds like not enough weight on the pin. Full vs empty tanks can really throw off the balance as well. Some rigs have waste tanks behind the front cargo and fresh water behind the axle.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 6499" data-quote="NWWIRAM" data-source="post: 50008" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=50008" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-50008">NWWIRAM said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My situation is very similar to yours. I have the MORYDE pin box, but I am a little lighter than you with a SRW 3500. I was experiencing more bucking than what I thought should be normal. It felt like the truck and fifth wheel trailer were fighting each other. I noticed that the truck was down on the overload springs, so I installed a pair of after market air bags to level out the truck. The bags helped to smooth out the ride quite a bit. <br /> <br /> I am shopping for a new truck right now (a dually) and I am debating whether I should order the truck with the air bags or to go with after market bags. I would like to go with a Reese Goose Box also which will help even more because it has an air bag and shock system. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I have the factory air and am very happy with it . Easy to operate truck levels out . I had after market bags on my last truck and they worked well also . Be sure to get the Trailer tire monitoring option . One less thing on your dash .</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1079" data-quote="carlrx7" data-source="post: 50023" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=50023" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-50023">carlrx7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Take it through a CAT scale and post up your numbers. Sounds like not enough weight on the pin. Full vs empty tanks can really throw off the balance as well. Some rigs have waste tanks behind the front cargo and fresh water behind the axle. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Here is some information for the OP on weights. The first few trips with the 38’ fifth wheel it was loaded with just the essentials and empty tanks. No generator and no washer and dryer. It has a hydraulic system, a single battery and two LP tanks in the front bay. The pin weight was at 29% and I knew I had to do something because it felt like the trailer was overpowering the truck. The sofa is on the back wall of the trailer and has storage under it. That is where I put various toolboxes and 75’ of 50 amp extension cord. The fresh water tank is below the sofa, so I carry about 100 gallons of fresh water back there. I also load some other heavy things at the rear of the trailer. With all of this I was able to get the pin weight down to 25% and the ride did improve. Some of the improvements could have been from the air bags that I added about the same time. Loaded for traveling, I am at 80% trailer axle rating and 100+% payload rating on the truck. Thus my need for a DRW truck. <br /> <br /> <br /> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Reese’s goose box smooth ride no chucking and empty bed when not pulling trailer.</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 6225" data-quote="M109R" data-source="post: 50253" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=50253" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-50253">M109R said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Reese’s goose box smooth ride no chucking and empty bed when not pulling trailer. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;m a little confused by a picture of a bed that does not appear to be a Ram truck?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1989" data-quote="Brutal_HO" data-source="post: 54056" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=54056" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-54056">Brutal_HO said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m a little confused by a picture of a bed that does not appear to be a Ram truck? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Looks like a ford box</div>
 
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