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Proper is pretty subjective. If I can operate my side business without needing a CDL legally (proper) it's in my best interest from a financial perspective.

What in the actual ignorance are you talking about here? There are all kinds of exceptions to needing a CDL...

This is actually a really confusing point. When they say combination rating that refers to the combo of the truck gvwr and the trailer gvwr not the trucks gcvwr. I asked about this specifically. The state patrol says they have no idea what the truck gcvwr is, it’s not printed anywhere on the...

JFC. This is exactly what I didn’t want this thread turning into. NO! You don’t need a CDL for a trailer over 10k. Only if the trailer is over 10 and the combined is over 26. In fact you can drive a 25,999 gvwr truck and a 9999 gvwr trailer and not need a CDL. It’s only required when both the...

They have a clause in another section that excludes RVs and horse trailers.

Here I will post it again for you. Also I called my state patrol and two scale houses. Feeling pretty sure on this:

Washington, very similar in many states though I haven’t gone in depth on any other state’s regulations.

It has absolutely nothing to do with what you register it for. It is what it is rated at from the factory. They look at the sticker on your door, not what you register it for.

Canada is the true land of the free. I wish it was as flexible here in the states.

Exactly, I agree this is probably unique to me but I’m sure I’m not the only one and it’s probably not worth it to Ram to do the same. The F350 I order has a payload of 3100 lbs. I just have to careful with towing my bigger trailers. Gooseneck/5th wheels I’d probably need to empty or remove my...

Last thing I want to mention before we hang this one up (in case anyone else searches in the future for similar info): The truck GVWR is a balancing act. Yes you can get a 2500 with a 10k GVWR and tow a 14k trailer but you're going to be cutting it really close and likely exceeding the rating...

I run my excavation business on the side. We get busy in the summer and it's great on smaller concrete/asphalt tearout jobs to have a laborer that can drive a few tons of material at a time to the pit for recycling while I run a breaker or tear out on the excavator or bring a few yards of...

Was trying to keep this simple. To clarify I have a couple of trailers, up to one that is 20k gvwr. I can’t afford 2 trucks nor do I want to store insure maintain etc. so a 2500 isn’t a good option as they will struggle with the larger trailers and I’m not buying anything without the aisin, my...

We tow a skid steer and a mini excavator. The state makes it clear that the recreational "passes" go to RVs and horse trailers. We're moving equipment to make money so we fall under commercial. We used to have a CLP program where your employer could sign you off to go take the test and get the...

The whole thing is stupid I completely agree with you. I don't know the laws in your state but I doubt you can go buy a dump truck with a manufacturers GVWR of 54k, register is for 26k and drive it around willy-nilly without a CDL...

That's true, I should've mentioned I need the crew cab since we use the truck to tow our travel trailer with 3 car seats and a dog in the back.

There are a lot of reasons why I want to have a non-cdl setup but I won't waste your time with all of those. One of the biggest ones is liability though. I'd sleep better at night know that in the event of something catastrophic I couldn't be accused of towing without a proper license. Although...

SRW 3500 has a 12,300 GVWR so no it's not low enough unfortunately.

PREFACE: Don't even mention CDL laws, we aren't going there. I know what the laws are and this will spiral quickly if we start down that rabbit hole. Let's pretend they don't exist but I want a setup under 26k. I'm also on week 6 now of a leaking RAM sunroof with parts still 2 weeks out and am...

Agree - I think the big takeaway is no sunroof no matter which brand. Ram makes it really hard because almost all laramies and up are built with one so you really have to go special order unless you're shopping big horns. 2020 was the first year of the 10 speed. I expect it will have some...