The OEM would be silly, legally to not put a get out of jail free clause in there. All OEM’s do that.
There is a small collection of evidence actually. That thread you mentioned has 102 people on it with issues. You realize from 2019-2025 ram produced like 3 million trucks. Even if it were 10% having issues (300,000 trucks) it’s still a very small potatoes pool of people which means it isn’t the normal experience.
If you’re attempting to assert that the number of people who are “following” or “contributing” to one specific thread, in one specific category, of one specific Internet forum is in some way demonstrative of, or reflective of, the number of people who have experienced emissions or engine related issues as a result of excessive short tripping or extending idle times out too long…..there is literally no amount of verifiable evidence or data that would satisfy or otherwise placate your perspective on this.
Furthermore, when you charge into a conversation with the “100% wrong” attitude and opening statement, you had better bring with you a litany of evidence to support said claim. Especially when such a comment is directed at a member here who has, on numerous occasions, demonstrated a reputation for contributing verifiable information, factual data, and in some cases…information that the general public shouldn’t necessarily know. And then backing up those contributions with actual information from manufacturers in black and white.
You’re not listening to learn. You’re listening to
respond. If you are unwilling to learn why be a part of a forum who’s fundamental purpose is the sharing of factual information and verifiable data in order to promote mutual benefit and gain ? So far your only real contribution has been “you’re wrong and I’m right” yet you’ve not provided a shred of evidence to the contrary of what I and others have provided in plain view.
Facts always trump opinion.
Applying the attempted cop-out of “well they just add that line in there to cover their own a$$ from a legal standpoint” is both laughable and further proof that you have nothing to provide outside of baseless claims.
If you’ve had no issues, great. Wonderful. We’re all happy for you. Sometimes you get lucky.
But there’s a real physical reason why practically every engine manufacturer has, and still does, release countless bulletins, owner warnings and recommendations, white papers, etc that all focus on minimizing engine idle time and short trips wherever possible. And that reason is that it is not conducive to engine and emission system health. Not myth. Not conjecture. Fact. Your own trucks owners manual spells that out clearly. And no…it isn’t for legal CYA. Engine manufacturers wouldn’t sell many engines if the recommendations they provide for service and maintenance on their products were baseless claims meant to keep them from avoiding legal issues. They sell engines because they know what they’re doing, they know their products, and they have a vested interest in helping owners maintain their purchases so they’ll come back and buy more.
