HEMI® Power To Keep Going In Ram Heavy Duty Trucks

[redriderbob]

HEMI® Power To Keep Going In Ram Heavy Duty Trucks​

6.4-liter "BGE" Engine To Continue As Standard Powerplant In Heavy Duty Series...​

The past year and a half has been dismal for HEMI® V8 fans, with Stellantis moving away from the current HEMI V8 engine portfolio. However, it doesn’t mean that all HEMI availability is ending. According to sources close to HDRams.com, the 6.4-liter (392 cubic-inch) HEMI® V8, known as the ‘BGE’ or Big Gas Engine, will live on under the hoods of the Ram 2500/3500 Heavy Duty.

HEMI® Power To Keep Going In Ram Heavy Duty Trucks - HD Rams

The past year and a half has been dismal for HEMI® V8 fans, with Stellantis moving away from the current HEMI V8 engine portfolio. However, it doesn't mean that all HEMI availability is ending. According to sources close to HDRams.com, the 6.4-liter (392 cubic-inch) HEMI® V8, known as the 'BGE'...

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[LegendaryLawman]

They have to with that GM and ford offers or most Americans won’t buy their gas HD trucks

 

[MKelp95]

Ram continues sitting on the bench

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Ram continues sitting on the bench

Not at all…. The Hemi is an excellent engine if you need more you need a diesel.

 

[silver billet]

So they also claim the 6 speed is getting dropped in favour of the ZF 8 speed "powerline" which can handle up to 1000 lb/ft. Guess that means that the cummins is getting derated then vs the current models.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

So they also claim the 6 speed is getting dropped in favour of the ZF 8 speed "powerline" which can handle up to 1000 lb/ft. Guess that means that the cummins is getting derated then vs the current models.

That rating will get bumped up don’t be foolish or mislead no company goes backwards in power output

 

[Brutal_HO]

So they also claim the 6 speed is getting dropped in favour of the ZF 8 speed "powerline" which can handle up to 1000 lb/ft. Guess that means that the cummins is getting derated then vs the current models.

You might want to visit the other thread.

That trans is already rated in PACCAR form for 1050 @ 57K GCWR.

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[Brutal_HO]

Ram continues sitting on the bench

How so?

 

[LegendaryLawman]

I do agree that Ram will not lower the torque, they will raise it. They will stretch it as much as they can even if it means ruining the longevity of the transmission just to make it through the warranty period. They have done this with every trans they have built from 2nd gen on since none of them have been bulletproof.

 

[MKelp95]

How so?

No new gas engine. No new cab. No 3500 rebel or power wagon. No multi function tailgate. No 4500 pickup option. The updated interiors along with new mirrors and soon to be new 8 speed are all welcome changes. But those along with the other things I mentioned should have been all been released by now in my opinion.

 

[Grateful Dad]

So they also claim the 6 speed is getting dropped in favour of the ZF 8 speed "powerline" which can handle up to 1000 lb/ft. Guess that means that the cummins is getting derated then vs the current models.

Torque management, question is how much/intrusive? Food for thought, the Ford 10R140 behind the PowerStroke is rated for 1,400 nm (1,032 ft/lbs)………..both their offerings exceed that (1,050 or 1,200).

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

No new gas engine. No new cab. No 3500 rebel or power wagon. No multi function tailgate. No 4500 pickup option. The updated interiors along with new mirrors and soon to be new 8 speed are all welcome changes. But those along with the other things I mentioned should have been all been released by now in my opinion.

Rams 3500 is equal to if not higher rated than fords F450 IIRC there is no need for a 4500 ram pickup that is just silly. New engines are not always a good thing plus the hemi puts down plenty of power any more power required a diesel is the clear choice. Multi function tailgate is just silly and the current cab is a great cab. A 3500 PW is just a silly idea

 

[Brutal_HO]

No new gas engine. No new cab. No 3500 rebel or power wagon. No multi function tailgate. No 4500 pickup option. The updated interiors along with new mirrors and soon to be new 8 speed are all welcome changes. But those along with the other things I mentioned should have been all been released by now in my opinion.

OK, now that's better than just, "Ram continues sitting on the bench." which just comes off as a cheap shot.

 

[MKelp95]

Rams 3500 is equal to if not higher rated than fords F450 IIRC there is no need for a 4500 ram pickup that is just silly. New engines are not always a good thing plus the hemi puts down plenty of power any more power required a diesel is the clear choice. Multi function tailgate is just silly and the current cab is a great cab. A 3500 PW is just a silly idea

A 4500 would have larger brakes and sharper turning radius. Which can be beneficial when towing or simply driving around town in tighter areas. Multi function tailgate would make loading and unloading the bed easier. The hd crew cab is the smallest in the segment. It can feel cramped sometimes especially with adult passengers and the bump in the rear middle seat . There’s the mega cab but that has no long bed option. I don’t see what’s so silly about any of that. Plus it would make ram more competitive with gm and ford. It’s fine if you disagree but there’s plenty of people that feel differently.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

A 4500 would have larger brakes and sharper turning radius. Which can be beneficial when towing or simply driving around town in tighter areas. Multi function tailgate would make loading and unloading the bed easier. The hd crew cab is the smallest in the segment. It can feel cramped sometimes especially with adult passengers and the bump in the rear middle seat . There’s the mega cab but that has no long bed option. I don’t see what’s so silly about any of that. Plus it would make ram more competitive with gm and ford. It’s fine if you disagree but there’s plenty of people that feel differently.

So far all you have done on this forum is complain about the Rams. Do you even have one? If you do what do you do with it that you need a 4500 with a bed?

 

[Poolmonkey]

New engines are not always a good thing plus the hemi puts down plenty of power any more power required a diesel is the clear choice. Multi function tailgate is just silly and the current cab is a great cab.

I would say good on them for keeping it simple but that pooch is all torn up.

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

I’m glad you can still get a pushrod multiport injection dinosaur.

If the six-fo Hemi can’t do it, a bigger newer gas motor isn’t the answer. You would need a diesel at that point.

 

[snocam]

As I've explained several times on this forum, I had the ford 7.3 gas in the truck I traded for my 2500 6.4. It's a good motor, but the Hemi is no slouch, and the longer I have the truck the more I like it.

 

[silver billet]

You might want to visit the other thread.

That trans is already rated in PACCAR form for 1050 @ 57K GCWR.

2025 Ram Heavy Duty To Get New ZF Powerline® 8-Speed

2025 Ram Heavy Duty To Get New ZF Powerline® 8-Speed Ram Will Finally Get Rid Of The Aging 68RFE From Its Lineup... In a pivotal move for the Ram Truck brand, the upcoming 2025 Ram Heavy Duty and Chassis Cab lineup is poised to adopt the cutting-edge ZF Powerline® 8-speed automatic...

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There are no guarantees until it's publicly down on paper without any tricks to get there. For example, the new Ram 1500's have less towing ability (GCWR) so it wouldn't be the first time they rate down in a newer version vs the previous.

Another thing to remember, Ram takes a ZF and modifies it, so the ZF mated to the 3.6 is their own hack and has more issues and less max torque.

 

[Brutal_HO]

There are no guarantees until it's publicly down on paper without any tricks to get there. For example, the new Ram 1500's have less towing ability (GCWR) so it wouldn't be the first time they rate down in a newer version vs the previous.

Another thing to remember, Ram takes a ZF and modifies it, so the ZF mated to the 3.6 is their own hack and has more issues and less max torque.

I think RAM will have a "bespoke" edition of the ZF, built by ZF of course, to handle the power. Perhaps beefier internals and better/more clutch material. TM will most certainly be in play as it is now in the Aisin. I've no doubt Ford and GM are using it, or they're banking on EOL just out of warranty. Doubt that will go well for them.