NickinColorado
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Hello all,
First post here, looking for some confirmation or opinions before placing an order on a new truck.
A little background first- I currently have a 2019 F150 XLT crew cab, 3.5 eco boost, 5.5' bed that I bought new that has 26k on the odometer. It's also paid off. This truck has treated me awesome averaging 21.5mpg combined, carrying 2-3 dirt bikes into the mountains regularly, and general use as a truck. I'm a firefighter so I often carry around a lot of work stuff. Payload in the F150 is 1,839 pounds with a tow rating of 13,200lb.
Up until a couple weeks ago we had a built out 159" Promaster camper van that I put about 200 hours of labor into, but since we are expecting our first kid and we also have three dogs we have sold our van and are looking to size up to buy a travel trailer. We aren't interested in staying in any RV parks and really ONLY boondocks. We've never paid to camp anywhere in the van. In nearly 4 years of ownership we put 53,000 miles on the van with 4 trips to British Columbia, one to Mexico, one to California, and a dozen + to Utah. I've never been interested in a travel trailer because the build quality on the ones I have been in are horrible. In all that time in our van I never had to do any repairs. Even after thousands of miles down washboard roads.
Researching heavy duty "off road" travel trailers I came across Northwoods, and Outdoors RV. I really like the backcountry series from ORV. Specifically the 20BD and 24KRS. The 24KRS specs are as follows but the 20bd is also really similar- https://www.outdoorsrvmfg.com/back-country-series-24krs/#specs
Dry weight 7430
fresh water capacity 100 gallons
grey tank 40
black tank 40
LPG 80lb tanks
Dry hitch weight 965lb
Max trailer weight 9995lb.
Researching online in a forum similar to this people say to expect 15-16% tongue weight because of where the generator is, water tank, and propane. Being conservative I'm figuring 1500lb tongue weight off the max possible trailer weight. You can see where this is going... With 3 of us, 2 full size dirt bikes, 3 dogs, and some gear the payload will easily surpass 1900lb. In order to pull a travel trailer and have two full size dirt bikes I would also have to remove the tailgate which is a little bit of a PITA. At this point I was pretty bummed because I just paid my truck off last month. With current truck values I figured maybe it wouldn't be so bad to upgrade to a diesel 2500. I went and looked at a 2021 Longhorn 2500 Mega Cab with the cummins. The salesman was clueless and I knew more about the truck than he did. I looked in the door and was surprised to see the payload was 1909lb. Only 70 pounds more than my 1500! Back to the drawing board.
I started looking into 3500's and that seems to be the ticket for my use. The spec I want is just under 4000lb payload. I drive the "Ike Gauntlet" (yes I've watched all the YouTube videos) probably once a week to either mountain bike or ride Moto. I imagine we will pull the travel trailer that way at least once a month in the summer if not more with 3 or 4 two week trips a year to the PNW along with elk hunting in fall. We also plan on getting a lot of winter use out of this setup skiing for 2-3 days at a time 5 or 6 times a winter. Otherwise it will be my daily driver and my work commute is only about 12 miles. We spent about 60 nights a year in the van on average as a comparison.
I found this site when researching where to buy a 3500 from since there are zero available locally. Not in any configuration to look at or test drive. I found Aaron and Sandi at Mark Dodge and I'm about to put an order in for the following 3500 Laramie Mega Cab SRW. I've never owned a diesel but I'm semi-familiar driving a fire engine every day at work.
SO Cummins
Air Suspension
Engine block heater
Towing tech group B
Safety group B
Laramie Level B
Night Edition
Power Running Boards
Am I going way overkill with this? I feel like 90% of trucks I see towing big RV's around here are 2500's. I can only assume they're all over the payload rating. I'm a little nervous about how bad the ride will be as a daily driver when empty. I'm looking forward to the diesel in the mountains though not only for the power but for the exhaust braking. I'd love to hear any opinions or confirmation that I'm making the right choice here before jumping back into a big car payment. We are planning on keeping this truck for at least 6 or 7 years and imagine we'll put 150k - 200k miles on it in that time. If you made it this far I appreciate it!
First post here, looking for some confirmation or opinions before placing an order on a new truck.
A little background first- I currently have a 2019 F150 XLT crew cab, 3.5 eco boost, 5.5' bed that I bought new that has 26k on the odometer. It's also paid off. This truck has treated me awesome averaging 21.5mpg combined, carrying 2-3 dirt bikes into the mountains regularly, and general use as a truck. I'm a firefighter so I often carry around a lot of work stuff. Payload in the F150 is 1,839 pounds with a tow rating of 13,200lb.
Up until a couple weeks ago we had a built out 159" Promaster camper van that I put about 200 hours of labor into, but since we are expecting our first kid and we also have three dogs we have sold our van and are looking to size up to buy a travel trailer. We aren't interested in staying in any RV parks and really ONLY boondocks. We've never paid to camp anywhere in the van. In nearly 4 years of ownership we put 53,000 miles on the van with 4 trips to British Columbia, one to Mexico, one to California, and a dozen + to Utah. I've never been interested in a travel trailer because the build quality on the ones I have been in are horrible. In all that time in our van I never had to do any repairs. Even after thousands of miles down washboard roads.
Researching heavy duty "off road" travel trailers I came across Northwoods, and Outdoors RV. I really like the backcountry series from ORV. Specifically the 20BD and 24KRS. The 24KRS specs are as follows but the 20bd is also really similar- https://www.outdoorsrvmfg.com/back-country-series-24krs/#specs
Dry weight 7430
fresh water capacity 100 gallons
grey tank 40
black tank 40
LPG 80lb tanks
Dry hitch weight 965lb
Max trailer weight 9995lb.
Researching online in a forum similar to this people say to expect 15-16% tongue weight because of where the generator is, water tank, and propane. Being conservative I'm figuring 1500lb tongue weight off the max possible trailer weight. You can see where this is going... With 3 of us, 2 full size dirt bikes, 3 dogs, and some gear the payload will easily surpass 1900lb. In order to pull a travel trailer and have two full size dirt bikes I would also have to remove the tailgate which is a little bit of a PITA. At this point I was pretty bummed because I just paid my truck off last month. With current truck values I figured maybe it wouldn't be so bad to upgrade to a diesel 2500. I went and looked at a 2021 Longhorn 2500 Mega Cab with the cummins. The salesman was clueless and I knew more about the truck than he did. I looked in the door and was surprised to see the payload was 1909lb. Only 70 pounds more than my 1500! Back to the drawing board.
I started looking into 3500's and that seems to be the ticket for my use. The spec I want is just under 4000lb payload. I drive the "Ike Gauntlet" (yes I've watched all the YouTube videos) probably once a week to either mountain bike or ride Moto. I imagine we will pull the travel trailer that way at least once a month in the summer if not more with 3 or 4 two week trips a year to the PNW along with elk hunting in fall. We also plan on getting a lot of winter use out of this setup skiing for 2-3 days at a time 5 or 6 times a winter. Otherwise it will be my daily driver and my work commute is only about 12 miles. We spent about 60 nights a year in the van on average as a comparison.
I found this site when researching where to buy a 3500 from since there are zero available locally. Not in any configuration to look at or test drive. I found Aaron and Sandi at Mark Dodge and I'm about to put an order in for the following 3500 Laramie Mega Cab SRW. I've never owned a diesel but I'm semi-familiar driving a fire engine every day at work.
SO Cummins
Air Suspension
Engine block heater
Towing tech group B
Safety group B
Laramie Level B
Night Edition
Power Running Boards
Am I going way overkill with this? I feel like 90% of trucks I see towing big RV's around here are 2500's. I can only assume they're all over the payload rating. I'm a little nervous about how bad the ride will be as a daily driver when empty. I'm looking forward to the diesel in the mountains though not only for the power but for the exhaust braking. I'd love to hear any opinions or confirmation that I'm making the right choice here before jumping back into a big car payment. We are planning on keeping this truck for at least 6 or 7 years and imagine we'll put 150k - 200k miles on it in that time. If you made it this far I appreciate it!