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AndreaChapmanScottsdale - Ram HD Builds and orders

AndreaChapmanScottsdale said:
I certainly don't want to rock the boat if you have already ordered through Sandi or elsewhere. But, if anyone needs a quote a little closer to your home state that is very competitive, I would love to show you what we can now do. [email protected].
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Are you getting down to 12% off msrp yet?
 
On 2021s, there were mfg incentives that are not available / showing yet on '22s on our configurators. I'm easily at 2-3% under invoice, which is about 10% under msrp. The only way to know what incentive is on a vehicle is to look it up by VIN. Incentives are not showing on any of the '22 vins that have been dispatched yet. That doesn't mean there won't be any. It just means it's an unknown so it is hard to compare it to what happened on a '21
 
AndreaChapmanScottsdale said:
On 2021s, there were mfg incentives that are not available / showing yet on '22s on our configurators. I'm easily at 2-3% under invoice, which is about 10% under msrp. The only way to know what incentive is on a vehicle is to look it up by VIN. Incentives are not showing on any of the '22 vins that have been dispatched yet. That doesn't mean there won't be any. It just means it's an unknown so it is hard to compare it to what happened on a '21
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Hi Andrea, when it comes to incentives, do customers only qualify for the incentives that are available in the month that the vehicle is picked up? or are there ways to pick up some other incentives along the way? Thanks!
 
AndreaChapmanScottsdale said:
It took me a while to figure out, as well as convince my dealership of the benefits. I will be happy to explain it to you if you reach out to me re this or any other questions you may have. I'd love to help you.
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It would be a lot easier for people if you could just be up front about the deal you are able to offer. It'll only be a matter of time for someone to share what you're offering anyways.

Just my thought.
 
areohwhy said:
It would be a lot easier for people if you could just be up front about the deal you are able to offer. It'll only be a matter of time for someone to share what you're offering anyways.

Just my thought.
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You are right. But, I am not supposed to quote my percent off invoice discounts, although I'm sure I'll make a mistake at some point. Now, if you share, well.... ;-)
 
Cummins0867 said:
Ok here's how is was explained to me. When you order a truck it is ordered as a sold order...I think its 99 priority which I believe is the highest. At that time they are assigning it a VIN it is sequenced on the line....AKA "Production line" its one continuous line for that model year (so think linear). On that line there are batches (buckets) of trims and options that are grouped on the line (maybe 300-500 at a time). Since the truck is sold and is a priority they do all they can do to fit you in line closest to production (front of the line). Based on date ordered usually goes first but not always another sold order can jump ahead of an earlier sold order based on many things i.e. usually parts, etc... There are many factors the first being are you a D1 (do they have all the parts present to build your truck) this is most important. If they don't they try to guess when all parts will be available (usually its a pretty accurate guess based on previous history). Then they sequence you and assign you a VIN and sometimes assign you a build date and a ship date....if the line is currently moving....in this case it isn't and doesn't currently start up until 9 August 2021. When it comes time in line for your truck to be build if ALL parts (usually the options you chose didn't arrive like they thought they would) and aren't available they move you back in line (into the next batch that fits your trim/options) build that truck that was going to be yours with out those options and it gets a different VIN and it sits on a dealer's lot. This is why sometimes you see a status change from D to D1 and then back to D...meaning all the parts didn't arrive. like they thought they would. The actual VIN like the guy that has the "127" yes that is very low are usually built first....but often a higher number VIN can be built sooner then the lower number VIN ALL depending on where it fits in the production line with the batches/buckets of trims...... and do they have the parts on hand. I hope this all makes sense. There are too many variables that come into play that effect this process.....there's really no true rhyme or reason and much of it depends on luck.....is why most trucks are 6 to 10 weeks but yet once in a while on the timing a truck is ordered, built, shipped and delivered in less than 4 weeks and others take 14 -16 weeks. or even longer. With the chip shortage it makes the guessing game even that much harder as to how quick your truck will arrive.
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I didn't read over this carefully yet. But, 99 is the lowest priority. Once it is truly ordered oh, that 99 changes to a 1. :)
 
Bamabuggy said:
It is my understanding from my dealer that a sold order is assigned a priority 99( lowest) until a customer name and address along with the salesman’s name is added to the order at which time it changes to a priority 1 (highest). My build sheet seems to verify that. I was also told that this is how your name gets on the window sticker.
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Jlentini said:
Hi Andrea, when it comes to incentives, do customers only qualify for the incentives that are available in the month that the vehicle is picked up? or are there ways to pick up some other incentives along the way? Thanks!
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There are different types of incentives and discounts. But, they all have to be valid and "redeemed" at time of delivery - that is when we officially apply for reimbursement. There is a configurator we use for current incentives. They can be finance (rate incentives), leasing (rate and residual) or discounts ($ off). Some can be combined, some can't. Most are only good during a given month and we don't know they are continued until the first of the next month. There are also incentives you have to bring to us that have to be planned for, like the affiliate rewards discounts. They require the customer to find (via their employer or a membership), KY for on your own, and bring to the dealer at delivery. We then have to go onto the Chrysler site to verify they are valid. They actually audit dealers and take back paid out incentives when they find errors or non-compliance. Or, if we make a filing error, we won't receive the reimbursement. Hope that helps. If there is an incentive for the Vin when you order or during the build, there is a way to lock them in. Sadly, on an order, there is no vin to look up at the beginning, so it is a waiting game at least for a short time until a vin is assigned. With the 22s, they have not announced them on our site yet though - still a waiting game. We actually don't even know if the affiliate rewards will really be continued, as there is no official notice on that yet, either. So, the dealers like us who are agreeing to accept them are taking somewhat of a risk. ;-) I hope this helps.
 
That's kind of right. A sold order is a sold order and becomes a 1 when submitted / accepted. Putting the name in is part of the submittal. We can mock build a sold order and not submit it, which is how I build to quote. So, it would be a 99 if submitted without the name. But, we don't go that far when quoting, because a non sold order takes one of our available allocated units. It's only when we accept a deposit or down payment that we submit sold orders.
 
My fleet pricing is locked in as anyone else who has a fleet account. There are some dealers in my area that will not honor the fleet pricing anymore because of shortages. I will never buy from them ever again. The only negotiation is on holdback. Dealers are not giving up hold back right now. From what I understand 2022 fleet FAN will be less discount in 2022 but I hadn't seen that yet. I will not buy a vehicle in the 2022 model year if that is true. I was told that incentives will be almost nonexistent to retail also until the stock comes up. The Fall Season will be the time used vehicles' value will be at the peak according to my Fleet Manager..
 
renagade69 said:
My fleet pricing is locked in as anyone else who has a fleet account. There are some dealers in my area that will not honor the fleet pricing anymore because of shortages. I will never buy from them ever again. The only negotiation is on holdback. Dealers are not giving up hold back right now. From what I understand 2022 fleet FAN will be less discount in 2022 but I hadn't seen that yet. I will not buy a vehicle in the 2022 model year if that is true. I was told that incentives will be almost nonexistent to retail also until the stock comes up. The Fall Season will be the time used vehicles' value will be at the peak according to my Fleet Manager..
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Hi Renegade! We have been told that any orders that were already placed under the program before some of it went into limbo were honored for FANs. They have now announced FAN Empowerment incentives through May 31, 2022, and includes '22 models. These cannot be combined with retail incentives. Depending on model, these range from $0 to $5,000. The rules state no factory orders. Have a call into my regional rep to verify that part. Any chance you spoke with your regional rep (not the dealer)? I will update when I hear.
 
Myfast70 said:
LOL, funny to see a local dealer on here who has been charging full MSRP, and even adding an ADM in some cases, concerned about other dealers pricing. I've been to your dealership and had your attempted gouging and decided to go online with an honest dealer and a $10k+ savings, why support local when they don't support you?? It's also funny that this is also your first post...
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This is called the FREE MARKET. It is simple supply and demand at work here, If you have ever ran a business you would understand the concept(or taken economics). The plus side to a free market you are not required to purchase from dealers you think are charging to much.
 
I have a question on the PW level 3 package, does it include the bead lock rims and rail with steps pads? When I try building a 2022 on SHowroom or Costco Auto when you click the level 3 it makes the bead lock rims zero for price.
 
AndreaChapmanScottsdale said:
Hi Renegade! We have been told that any orders that were already placed under the program before some of it went into limbo were honored for FANs. They have now announced FAN Empowerment incentives through May 31, 2022, and includes '22 models. These cannot be combined with retail incentives. Depending on model, these range from $0 to $5,000. The rules state no factory orders. Have a call into my regional rep to verify that part. Any chance you spoke with your regional rep (not the dealer)? I will update when I hear.
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I haven't spoken to my Reginal rep in 2 months. That could be an interesting incentive. No Fleet FAN has ever combined with retail incentives. Being the best deal you can get on a vehicle with a free extended warranty to 100k. The problem with no factory orders with the "Empowerment" is the dealers can not convert the vehicle to fleet once it is on the lot and ordered retail. You lose the free warranty and wait 2 months for the fleet rebate to come. You will have to explain the FAN empowerment in PM as I have a nondisclosure agreement on my FAN pricing.
 
Jlentini said:
Hi Andrea, when it comes to incentives, do customers only qualify for the incentives that are available in the month that the vehicle is picked up? or are there ways to pick up some other incentives along the way? Thanks!
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Once incentives are available for a vin, there is a way to lock that incentive for a sold unit. It could be that the unit hasn't arrived or that it is being sent out for an upfit, etc. It is not an easy process and often the dealer gets charged back if it isn't applied for correctly. If they were never applied for during the incentive, then the ones available at time of delivery would be the only option.
 
wademeyer said:
I have a question on the PW level 3 package, does it include the bead lock rims and rail with steps pads? When I try building a 2022 on SHowroom or Costco Auto when you click the level 3 it makes the bead lock rims zero for price.
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I haven't built that exact set up. But usually if going to $0 after selecting a package means it's is now included in that package.
 
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