Hey guys, so i’m from Norway and and strongly concidering importing a 2019 ram 2500 laramie from texas, unfortunatly tho that will void any warranty on it. There is a insurance here that i will be getting, that covers engine and drivetrain dammages for 10 years or 130k miles. Besides that tho i will have to pay for repairs myself. What kind of a nightmare am i getting myself into here? The truck has 12k miles on it and according to the dealer it’s in great condition, no faults and has passed a mechanical inspection prior to sale. It’s my dream truck, and if i had to order it from a dealer here i’d be paying a extra 50k dollars, something i’m not inrested in, safe to say i’m worried, but is there a point? Anyone here who have put miles on their trucks with no issues?
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Bandit400
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What engine? Gas or Cummins Diesel? Diesel has the CP4 fuel pump which could be be a time bomb to the tune of $10k expense if it fails and contaminates the entire fuel system with metal particles.
Here is the thread on the CP4 fuel pump issue: https://hdrams.com/forum/index.php?...-2021-6-7l-diesel-trucks-merged-threads.3415/
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Consider the 50k saved as your repair if needed fund.
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Putting cost aside for the moment, I hate to see how long it would take to do that repair given the challenges with US dealers getting parts let alone those outside the US. The truck could be awaiting repair for weeks to months given what we have seen from other member experiences here.
On the positive side, there is an aftermarket CP3 pump conversion for $2k plus that seems something I would definitely do in my opinion since the manufacturer warranty is void anyway. This will avoid the “glitterbomb” experience with the CP4 wrecking your entire fuel system. Seems like cheap insurance in this case.
It’s gonna be a cummins for sure.
If the pump has not already failed, am i good? Or can it do useen dammage that will **** me later down the road? In europe the pump has a 1% failure rate compred to the 7% failure rate the US has, that’s 7 times as many failed pumps. This seems to be due to the fact that our diesel is better. Keep in mind the cp4 was designed for the euro market with our diesel.
I’ll be talking to my insurance to see what coverage i have, if it does fail a cp3 swap will be done instantly.
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Generally when it fails in the typical manner seen so far, it will pretty quickly cause the engine to stop due to the fuel system failure. Agree that the poor lubricity of US diesel seems to be problematic for the CP4. There are other weakness to the design of this pump which would make me proactively change it out for a CP3 to avoid the headache of dealing with the aftermath of a CP4 failure. I was planning to do the swap on my 2019 right before my factory warranty would expire however I just traded it in with the plan of buying a new 2022 Ram 5500 without the issue.
Here is a good video explaining the CP4 issues and CP3 benefits:
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Right, i’ll take a look at it. I would prob be better off getting a 2021 model, those have the cp3’s right?
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Correct. Renamed CPISB21 or something like that. No good info yet on exactly what it is that differentiates it from a CP3, but it looks identical.
Thanks. Other than the pump, any major diffrences between the 2? Not only is the 2021 more expensive to buy, but also more taxes for me to register it because my country is stupid, so if i can have insurance coverage for 10 years on the cp4 i might still go for that one
If importing it voids the warranty then I would just buy the 2019 and have the CP3 conversion kit installed right away.
I am not sure what the laws are there, but if you could then delete it and put a programmer on it you could get almost 20% better mileage and more power.
I am not sure what the laws are there, but if you could then delete it and put a programmer on it you could get almost 20% better mileage and more power.
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With the limited failure stories I have seen on the Interwebs....I am not sure I would worry about the CP4 - seriously.
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This is a tough one,. I agree there is not a lot of hard data on failure rates but one item that is hard to dispute is that Ram change the pump design multiple times from 2019 to 2021. Something is going on that concerns them enough about it to make those changes.
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Could have been cost or sourcing issues...who knows...
Well, Gm has a class action lawsuit on their hands because of the cp4 pumps. They’ve been a problem on the duramax. I read that they are 7 times more likely to fail in the US than europe but take that with a grain of salt i guess. Honestly i’m not too worried atm, i’m getting a 2020 and the insurance will cover me for 10 years or 160k miles. I’ll just leave it be and see what happens.