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I am going to eliminate the Limted and Limited Longhorn because those are way out of my price range and I want a step up from Tradesman (I really like the Night Edition) so I am between these two trims. It appears if I add the Big Horn Equipment group B and the LED headlamps, it has pretty much everything the Laramie has if you include Laramie Level A and is $3,000 cheaper. Is the only real difference the seats? I know if you start adding all of the tech groups and stuff to both the Big Horn and Laramie, they start to come closer in price because they are cheaper on the Laramie, but if you don't add all of that stuff (towing and safety), the Big Horn seems like a better value so I just wanted to see if I was missing anything else.
 
You're spot on.

Ventilated seats were what pushed me over the edge and caused me to order Laramie over Big Horn. But if nothing in the Laramie is a must-have for you, then you might as well save a few bucks.
 
To be honest, the proximity entry really pushed me to the Laramie, along with the ventilated seats... once you’ve had them it really spoils you, I like being able to not have to pull my keys out unless I remote start the truck.
 
Laramie comes with the 9 speaker system standard, fender flares, power folding mirrors, led brake lights, led interior lights, grill all chrome, 8 way power front seats, rear reading lights, illuminated glove box, parking sensors, acoustic glass, power sliding rear window, rear wheel well liners, dampened tailgate, body colored/ chrome door handles, andorid auto/ apple carplay, overhead storage, dual zone climate control, one touch windows, rear window defroster, leather steering wheel, locking glove box, remote proximity keyless entry, and security system. That's just a quick look at the differences in the specs for basic bighorn, and basic laramie. I was in the same situation between bighorn and laramie and what decided it for me was ventilated leather seats, the surround view camera wasn't available with the 8.4" on the bighorn, and fender flares. all the extra stuff was just a bonus. The speaker system is also nice.
 
I was in the same position, I currently have a 2016 Bighorn trim and I wanted some of the other options like the 12" screen, LED headlights, better speakers, and wanted leather this go around. Played around on the Ram website and built several trucks with different options to see where pricing was. The Laramie trim was only slightly higher but I wanted the update tech so that is what I ordered. Order was placed 1-25-21, scheduled arrival currently shows 4-13-21 to 4-27-21 so hopefully any day the new one will be here.
 
Surprisingly when I was looking there were few Bighorns with the HO and Aisin tranny. I got a bigger discount on a Laramie. So I went with it. No regrets.
 
I just chose between a Big Horn and Laramie. The one thing nobody has mentioned is payload. The higher the trim the lower the payload.

I came from a 2020 1500 Longhorn that had a whopping 1220 lbs of payload. The Laramie 3500 I looked at had something like 3000. I cannot stand the automatic high beams and wipers and had those turned off on my Longhorn all the time.

I ended up with a Big Horn that has just about everything I need. Night Edition in Black especially. It also has power fold Tow mirrors, adjustable pedals, front and rear parking sensors and a few other options. It also came with the Alpine system and 8.4 screen. Even with all of this the payload is 5720 lbs.

I know many people aren’t concerned with payload that much, but for me this was at the top of my list of importance.


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I am very much liking my loaded up Big Horn. It has all I need and more but this is me.....coming from a 2nd gen Cummins that rode like a stage coach and had zero tech.

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I went big horn over laramie mainly so I could get the vinyl floor. Don't like carpet in a truck.
 
Buzzb said:
Laramie comes with the 9 speaker system standard, fender flares, power folding mirrors, led brake lights, led interior lights, grill all chrome, 8 way power front seats, rear reading lights, illuminated glove box, parking sensors, acoustic glass, power sliding rear window, rear wheel well liners, dampened tailgate, body colored/ chrome door handles, andorid auto/ apple carplay, overhead storage, dual zone climate control, one touch windows, rear window defroster, leather steering wheel, locking glove box, remote proximity keyless entry, and security system. That's just a quick look at the differences in the specs for basic bighorn, and basic laramie. I was in the same situation between bighorn and laramie and what decided it for me was ventilated leather seats, the surround view camera wasn't available with the 8.4" on the bighorn, and fender flares. all the extra stuff was just a bonus. The speaker system is also nice.
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Bingo!!

Dont forget the remote tailgate release (push button on overhead console and ALSO your key fob) which is standard on Laramie, but not available on Bighorn. Towing a 5er, this was a must for me...
 
naplesbill said:
I just chose between a Big Horn and Laramie. The one thing nobody has mentioned is payload. The higher the trim the lower the payload.

I came from a 2020 1500 Longhorn that had a whopping 1220 lbs of payload. The Laramie 3500 I looked at had something like 3000. I cannot stand the automatic high beams and wipers and had those turned off on my Longhorn all the time.

I ended up with a Big Horn that has just about everything I need. Night Edition in Black especially. It also has power fold Tow mirrors, adjustable pedals, front and rear parking sensors and a few other options. It also came with the Alpine system and 8.4 screen. Even with all of this the payload is 5720 lbs.

I know many people aren’t concerned with payload that much, but for me this was at the top of my list of importance.


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Ummm... No, no 3500 has 3000# payload. Try closer to 4000#. My '19 3500 HO Limited Mega cab has 3850# or somewhere around that, and that is pretty much as low as it can be: Mega cabs with short box and HO, as well as CC short box will have the lowest payload, there isn't enough options out there to drop it down to 3000#

As for your Bighorn with 5720#, is it a dually? No SRW has that much no matter the trim level.
 
MEGA HO 3500 said:
Ummm... No, no 3500 has 3000# payload. Try closer to 4000#. My '19 3500 HO Limited Mega cab has 3850# or somewhere around that, and that is pretty much as low as it can be: Mega cabs with short box and HO, as well as CC short box will have the lowest payload, there isn't enough options out there to drop it down to 3000#

As for your Bighorn with 5720#, is it a dually? No SRW has that much no matter the trim level.
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Sounds about right. I do know it was 3000 something compared to 5720. Both were dually.

So I tried to find the other 3500 I was looking at but it appears to have been sold. I looked at so many trucks before choosing the one I bought.

It was an SRW 3500 that was just under 3900 payload. I want to say the other dually was in the mid 4K area. It was heavily optioned compared to the one I ended up buying.

Sorry for any confusion.

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Chrisminx said:
Looks like you may be correct. I know previously you could order a Laramie with a carpet delete. The Ram site has been known to not always be correct. The dealer would have better info.
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It's already on the train headed north so it's too late to change anyway.
 
naplesbill said:
I just chose between a Big Horn and Laramie. The one thing nobody has mentioned is payload. The higher the trim the lower the payload.

I came from a 2020 1500 Longhorn that had a whopping 1220 lbs of payload. The Laramie 3500 I looked at had something like 3000. I cannot stand the automatic high beams and wipers and had those turned off on my Longhorn all the time.

I ended up with a Big Horn that has just about everything I need. Night Edition in Black especially. It also has power fold Tow mirrors, adjustable pedals, front and rear parking sensors and a few other options. It also came with the Alpine system and 8.4 screen. Even with all of this the payload is 5720 lbs.

I know many people aren’t concerned with payload that much, but for me this was at the top of my list of importance.


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Payload was exactly why I went with the 3500. I did not want a dually since I drive my Lance Camper in desolate, rough dispersed camping spots and can easily park in in normal parking spaces when I run to Home Depot. The 2021 2500 with rear coils did not have enough payload for my camper that is on all the time. The 3500 with SRW is circa 3850 pound payload that leaves payload to spare for my Lance 650. In addition tall campers and coil springs do not play well together. So the 3500 leaf springs work better. My previous Ram was a 2005 2500 HO Diesel that required a rear swaybar and airbags to adequately handle the camper.
 
naplesbill said:
Sounds about right. I do know it was 3000 something compared to 5720. Both were dually.

So I tried to find the other 3500 I was looking at but it appears to have been sold. I looked at so many trucks before choosing the one I bought.
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There are no 4th+ gen duallys with a 3000 lb payload. Mathematically not possible with a 14k GVWR. Most have payloads close to 2x that amount because the trucks weigh anywhere from ~8000-9000 lbs.
 
gimmie11s said:
There are no 4th+ gen duallys with a 3000 lb payload. Mathematically not possible with a 14k GVWR. Most have payloads close to 2x that amount because the trucks weigh anywhere from ~8000-9000 lbs.
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I already corrected that statement as I was mixing 2500/3500 and dually numbers. However. I challenge you to find a RAM with an actual payload of 6k. They start at something like 6700 lbs and go down with every option added to the truck. The only way I could see keeping it above 6k would be the lowest build level of a tradesmen but that is something I have never seen. Go verify payloads by VIN and you will find most Dually configurations somewhere in the 5 to 6 k range but I have never seen on reach 6k in final configuration.


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naplesbill said:
I already corrected that statement as I was mixing 2500/3500 and dually numbers. However. I challenge you to find a RAM with an actual payload of 6k. They start at something like 6700 lbs and go down with every option added to the truck. The only way I could see keeping it above 6k would be the lowest build level of a tradesmen but that is something I have never seen. Go verify payloads by VIN and you will find most Dually configurations somewhere in the 5 to 6 k range but I have never seen on reach 6k in final configuration.


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It appears you fundamentally dont understand how payload works. It doesnt matter what youve "seen" or what you have heard they "start at". Below is how it actually works:

Payload is the numerical difference between GVWR and curb weight. I can build one with over 7k payload right now and have it delivered to my door in 3 months. See below.. 7680 lbs payload and 18,210 towing.





Im going to guess here, but that theoretical truck above is a dually with a GVWR of 14000 lbs. The truck weighs around 6300 lbs giving you ~7680 lbs of payload.

They do exist, and can be built exactly that way.
 
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