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Why are there so few 2500's with a Hemi?
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Firebird
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Definitely more diesels on the lots. I had been wanting a 6.4 with 4.10 gears, but they are as rare as hens teeth around here. Stumbled across mine at my local dealer and jumped on it immediately. He said he wished he had more of this set up, because the demand is high.
Is the 4.10 the way to go with one of these? Will there be any disadvantage to it besides MPG, and is that even going to make that much difference?
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I had a 3/4 ton gmc gas and went to my local dodge dealer looking to order a Laramie gas with 410's. They had a 2020 Laramie 3500 with a cummins that a customer had ordered and backed out on. No charge diesel and they took another 5k off the top. I liked it so I bought it. This was before I knew about the cp4.2 hopefully all goes well. But so far I really like the truck!
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also my wife thought it was funny to flip me the bird lol
JohnandDonna
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While the standard 3.73 is fine for everyday non towing, the 4.10 is IMHO the way to go. MPG is the only disadvantage and thats only by a 1 or 2 MPG depending on how you drive. The 4.10 tows like a beast and is very peppy off the line when not towing.
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Take rate on the diesel in 2500/3500 Ram HD is 75% according to Cummins:
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A lot of talk about gas vs diesel towing being the number 1 reason. I live in a big metro area where Home Depot parking lots are where most HD trucks live, not the open highway.
What that means, is in an area like this a lot of people buy the diesel because it's the king of the hill for pickup status symbol. It's expensive, it's overpowered, and it's valued for just that. Can't say I'm not in that boat if I'm being honest. A 6.4L would do all the stuff I request of my diesel, but some people purposely like being over the top. My license plate on my 2014 Duramax was "XCESSEV" because all I did with that thing is haul sail boat fuel. I've had Corvette and Camaro SS daily drivers...etc. Impractical if you're looking at it from this threads logic based standpoint about what something is used for physically.
Sometimes it's just about how it shines, baby. Go on, look at it down in that sig pic. Big boy diesel ready to EAT lol
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Thanks, I thought the number would be less.
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Having owned both, it is by far the best
Dunner
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Yes for the small mpg penalty 4:10 if your gonna tow
3.73 to 4.10 is like, 150 RPM on the highway. You can't even see that on the tach, nor can you detect any difference in drivability whatsoever. To me it's laughable that Ram even offers those two ratios.
I can sort of understand the 3.21 vs. 3.92 options in the 1500....there is enough difference there that it actually matters depending on intended useage of the truck. But 3.73 to 4.10? What a waste of time.
Over the last few decades I've done a lot of ring and pinion swaps and to me, I always had to go at least two "sizes" up if not three to be able to detect any real difference in performance or fuel economy. So, 3.73 to 4.56 would be ok but 4.88 would be better. That type of thing. Going to 4.10s to me was always a waste.
I can sort of understand the 3.21 vs. 3.92 options in the 1500....there is enough difference there that it actually matters depending on intended useage of the truck. But 3.73 to 4.10? What a waste of time.
Over the last few decades I've done a lot of ring and pinion swaps and to me, I always had to go at least two "sizes" up if not three to be able to detect any real difference in performance or fuel economy. So, 3.73 to 4.56 would be ok but 4.88 would be better. That type of thing. Going to 4.10s to me was always a waste.
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I think it's based on local purchasing. I had no problem locating a gas. Just a harder time finding 4.10's
I almost had to order. But was able to find in stock and only had to give up off-road package and aux switches.
My father in law had multiple big horn 3.73 to choose from.
I also think that might be because in montana. Guys are convinced they need diesel to pull their 5x8 open deck trailer. So maybe the gasses sit longer.
I almost had to order. But was able to find in stock and only had to give up off-road package and aux switches.
My father in law had multiple big horn 3.73 to choose from.
I also think that might be because in montana. Guys are convinced they need diesel to pull their 5x8 open deck trailer. So maybe the gasses sit longer.
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I actually didnt have any troubles at Christmas finding this Hemi down in Iowa, had it shipped to Central MN for 500 bucks.
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3.73 with 6 speed
4.10 with 8 speed
Both got the same economy, but the 4.10's do pull better
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What do you mean going to 4.10 is a waste? Like it is not good to get? Or are you saying they should just only offer 4.10 on this truck?
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I think he's saying they should only offer 4.10 with gas 8-speed for Hemi (I agree) and that going from 3.73 to 4.10 on your aftermarket dime is a waste of money.
One of the good things that happened to the Cummins trucks was the 2019+ switch to 3.73 only for the SO trucks from the previous 3.42s. Big HD towing trucks like more gear and the MPG is usually negligible in this class. The gas Ford 7.3 kills it with the 4.30 option over the standard 3.55 that can be found on the lot for example.
One of the good things that happened to the Cummins trucks was the 2019+ switch to 3.73 only for the SO trucks from the previous 3.42s. Big HD towing trucks like more gear and the MPG is usually negligible in this class. The gas Ford 7.3 kills it with the 4.30 option over the standard 3.55 that can be found on the lot for example.
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Ordered my 3500 with the 3.73's. 99% of its use will be without a trailer, and when I do pull a trailer, I seriously doubt that it will have difficulty taking off from a stop because it doesn't have the 4.10's. And as far as what rpm it will run on the freeway, I would imagine that running 7th gear with 3.73 would be similar to 8th gear with 4.10.
Unless you pull a heavy trailer A LOT, I think 3.73 is the way to go (unless you have much taller tires than stock).
Unless you pull a heavy trailer A LOT, I think 3.73 is the way to go (unless you have much taller tires than stock).
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I’m from Houston and I got really lucky. The dealer had one on the lot that wasn’t being advertised yet. I went to go check out the other three they had and they were already sold. I got about 8,000 miles on it now and I’m extremely happy with it. Didn’t want to go with the diesel because I’m a truck a mechanic. I’ve seen all the DEF issues they have and it wouldn’t have been worth it since I don’t really tow.
