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Fox shocks....
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H3LZSN1P3R
You're doing it wrong
@Rockcrawlerdude yours ride any better with the fox shox?
Rockcrawlindude
a rock crawlin’ dude
Yeah. I have Fox 2.0 IFPs. IFPs are much better than emulsion shocks, regardless of manufacturer.
The Stock shocks are junk. I actually had a leaky stock shock and didn’t know it and only had 10k on my truck.
Squatch
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Curious, you have part numbers for those fox shocks?
Rockcrawlindude
a rock crawlin’ dude
Here’s a shot of the application chart for the 2500. (Edit: I see you have a 3500, I added a link below)
I have a 2500 and I’m running
985-24-169 rears up to 1.5” lift (I have no lift)
985-24-168 front up to 1.5” lift (I’ll be putting a 1” up front)
Truck application chart
Offroad application chart (outdated pricing)
H3LZSN1P3R
You're doing it wrong
You dont have the offroad pkg do you? The bilstiens that are on my truck are pretty decent they are gas not oil so it makes a big difference
Rockcrawlindude
a rock crawlin’ dude
Nope just black leaky shocks
Mat_HD
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Interesting. I didn't know until just now that they made shocks for no lift. Wonder how much of a ride quality increase would be gained from doing shocks at all 4 corners on a 3500 w/ air ride and a thuren/carli sway bar up front. Looking to leave the truck stock height.
Rockcrawlindude
a rock crawlin’ dude
I’m not going to tell you it’s a life changing difference but there is a difference. If you have just the black body emulsion shocks then you will see a difference. emulsion shocks have shock oil and nitrogen in the same space. When the shock piston travels you get air bubbles from the nitrogen and oil trying to mix hence “emulsion” shock.
the fox are IFP
The IFP shocks are “internal floating piston”. What that means is you have two separate areas inside the shock. You have the lower reservoir which is filled with shock oil and the shock piston and the internal floating piston separates the shock oil from the upper area which is filled with nitrogen. It’s like a miniature reservoir shock. The benefit to going up to a true reservoir shock is more volume of both oil and nitrogen.
If you have the Offroad package with bilstein shocks, I haven’t looked into the bilstein shocks to see how they’re constructed. They make many different kinds of shocks but I’m sure they’re an upgrade over the black body shocks.
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No offroad package. Just the OEM 3500 suspension with factory air. In a perfect world I'd do the 1.75" thuren coils and then maybe a 1" block in the back or something. Some forum members/5th gen facebook groups say that they've done it no issues, then CJC offroad says they've seen the truck's computer freak out when you add leveling blocks/airbag spacers to the rear. so I don't really know.
I have had my Fox 2.5' on order since early November..... they apparently moved from CA to GA during this time and caused more delays, really hoping they arrive sometime this month as it was made to order and i cannot switch now or lose the money. Just never expected this long
Rockcrawlindude
a rock crawlin’ dude
Yea the truck stuff is moving here. Sweet facility.
There was me hoping it would be faster when in CA as it was close to me! Like many other businesses though, moving out of CA and dont blame them
Rockcrawlindude
a rock crawlin’ dude
trust me I wish the whole company was moving to Georgia, that would mean my brother would move back.
What about the King 2.0 options? I don't recall which shock (Fox/King) has the outside oxidation issues.
I'm going to do a small lift on the front of my 3500, Kings and probably a track bar although it isn't likely needed. I'm going for better ride quality on mine and tow occasionally so function over beauty I guess. I did put a set of Timbrens helpers on the rear and that has fixed my tow/sag height issue. Haven't towed with them yet. I'll update with impressions once I do.
I'm going to do a small lift on the front of my 3500, Kings and probably a track bar although it isn't likely needed. I'm going for better ride quality on mine and tow occasionally so function over beauty I guess. I did put a set of Timbrens helpers on the rear and that has fixed my tow/sag height issue. Haven't towed with them yet. I'll update with impressions once I do.
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Rockcrawlindude
a rock crawlin’ dude
king are great shocks too.
Neither should have oxidation issues but I guess any company can have a bad run of products. I wouldn’t count either brand out due to a bad batch
never a bad idea to wax your shock bodies. That’s how you keep them looking great. I don’t do that on my rock crawler, and the shocks have been in the vise many times for revalving, etc. putting them in the vise and working on them and also Offroad you can scratch the coating and you can get some finish wear but aluminum is pretty much self healing when it oxidizes. The shafts are hard chrome and have redundant wiper seals so they should stay perfect for a long time
Neither should have oxidation issues but I guess any company can have a bad run of products. I wouldn’t count either brand out due to a bad batch
never a bad idea to wax your shock bodies. That’s how you keep them looking great. I don’t do that on my rock crawler, and the shocks have been in the vise many times for revalving, etc. putting them in the vise and working on them and also Offroad you can scratch the coating and you can get some finish wear but aluminum is pretty much self healing when it oxidizes. The shafts are hard chrome and have redundant wiper seals so they should stay perfect for a long time
Thuren pushed towards the Fox's when I got them for this truck. Fox 2.0s are aluminum body from him. King's are all steel body.
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I've had terrible luck with Fox shocks on one of our jeeps. I've talkeed with Dennis/Joe at Teraflex and they plan to have Ram HD options in the Falcon shocks within the year.
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I have done just that. I didn't want to spend 4 - 6K on "Carli's" system for 3500 factory air ride trucks. My truck stock was 1" higher in the rear. I researched several thoughts and lifts but ultimately I decided on a Carli 3 1/4" commuter lift. 4 fox shocks, front coil springs and radius drop brackets to start. Then I used 2" spacers for the air bag and spring. (Ready lift, from amazon) I called and talked to Cody at CJC and he told me that set up would be fine. I ordered my stuff through him. The front "softness" was a huge improvement. The rear obviously made no difference but I knew that going in. I still have the option of someday "upgrading" the rear of the truck but for now, I was extremely happy with the result. I drove and towed 12K all summer long with no problems. I have since added the Carli sway bar, Track bar and just last week, Fuel wheels and 37" Nitto Terra Grapplers.
