2020 standard output - 986 lb/ft?

[WXman]

I just saw a video from Thoroughbred Diesel where they threw a stock 2500 truck on their dyno. It made 858 to the wheels. If I tack on 15% correction factor that's 986 at the crank.

Is it common for these new Cummins engines to make that kind of power or did this guy have a freak of nature?

 

[kvb45]

I think their dyno is very generous. The power stroke was at 460 hp and 979 torque

 

[Brutal_HO]

I think their dyno is very generous. The power stroke was at 460 hp and 979 torque

That's the 2020 Ford rating.

475/1050

Unless they were testing a 2019.

 

[kvb45]

That's the 2020 Ford rating.

475/1050

Unless they were testing a 2019.

They were showing 979 at the wheels. Add 15% as the OP was doing for Ram, 1125 torque.

 

[WXman]

I didn't see which brand of dyno they're using. Perhaps that's it. Maybe it's all in the dyno settings.

 

[Bozo]

I didn't see which brand of dyno they're using. Perhaps that's it. Maybe it's all in the dyno settings.

It overcounted........like some other machines do?

 

[WXman]

It overcounted........like some other machines do?

Careful. Yesterday I got banned from the Jeep Gladiator forum for 60 days after making a similar comment. Seems that a certain group of people with a certain mindset control all the internet forums these days, and they'll zap you without even giving a warning.

 

[Great White North Eh]

Careful. Yesterday I got banned from the Jeep Gladiator forum for 60 days after making a similar comment. Seems that a certain group of people with a certain mindset control all the internet forums these days, and they'll zap you without even giving a warning.

Must be a ‘’JEEP’’ thing.

 

[Lift89]

I just saw a video from Thoroughbred Diesel where they threw a stock 2500 truck on their dyno. It made 858 to the wheels. If I tack on 15% correction factor that's 986 at the crank.

Is it common for these new Cummins engines to make that kind of power or did this guy have a freak of nature?

I mean the factory says it’s 850 with the standard outputs. So the fact is got 858 at the wheel is a little much. I do know there’s a lot less wheel HP/TQ loss with the new trucks. They transfer the power pretty efficiently. But to get more than factory number is questionable.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Brutal_HO]

Careful. Yesterday I got banned from the Jeep Gladiator forum for 60 days after making a similar comment. Seems that a certain group of people with a certain mindset control all the internet forums these days, and they'll zap you without even giving a warning.

Have to push it pretty far here as the "certain people" group here tends to be smaller, but we do prefer that replies in all the forums except off topic specifically related threads avoid any heavy political commentary. Admittedly, it's hard to walk the line for some topics like when discussing fuel costs, the future of diesel and ICE vs electric vehicles, etc. If it gets too heated or abusive, some will likely get warnings, but overall the forum members here are pretty well behaved. Occasionally someone will go off the deep end and get a warning. They then usually take their ball and go away for a while on their own.

 

[miles]

Years ago I had a 1992 Dodge 3/4 ton with the 12 valve CTD. It was rated at 160hp & 400tq.

At about 200K, Kms I had a tune up done at Cummins, they dyno all vehicles after the tune up (most of their jobs a big commercial semi trucks).

it dyno at 160hp and the as told “most of them dyno to 130hp yours has more power”)
They are dyno at the rear wheels.

the truck was completely stock, I did replace the OEM exhaust because it rusted out with just a regular pipe and muffler.

 

[Epsilon Plus]

I saw a graph from ADP diesel where the SO did 346whp/788wtq. That's a 1.1%/7.3% loss.

This is the second time I've seen a report of RAM sandbagging the SO numbers if these dyno numbers are accurate, and prove to be repeatable.

From a marketing standpoint it makes sense that they would want to protect the HO by sandbagging the SO. AFAIK, the SO/HO are not SAE certified at the crank.

 

[WXman]

I saw a graph from ADP diesel where the SO did 346whp/788wtq. That's a 1.1%/7.3% loss.

This is the second time I've seen a report of RAM sandbagging the SO numbers if these dyno numbers are accurate, and prove to be repeatable.

From a marketing standpoint it makes sense that they would want to protect the HO by sandbagging the SO. AFAIK, the SO/HO are not SAE certified at the crank.

That's roughly 400/900 at the crank. Interesting. I'd love to see some HOs on these same dyno rollers. That would be eye opening.

 

[RV_Goose]

Must be a ‘’JEEP’’ thing.

Nope. I got banned for 2 weeks from IRV2 board.

Careful. Yesterday I got banned from the Jeep Gladiator forum for 60 days after making a similar comment. Seems that a certain group of people with a certain mindset control all the internet forums these days, and they'll zap you without even giving a warning.

AllI stated was "Will this 'accelerated tested virus vaccine' start the world wide zombie apocalypse?"

 

[Bozo]

Nope. I got banned for 2 weeks from IRV2 board.



AllI stated was "Will this 'accelerated tested virus vaccine' start the world wide zombie apocalypse?"

I also was banned from irv2. Bunch of snowflakes over there. Haven’t looked back since leaving.

 

[Brutal_HO]

OK guys, let's stay on topic... I'm guilty too, let's jus not get carried away.

 

[WXman]

Years ago I had a 1992 Dodge 3/4 ton with the 12 valve CTD. It was rated at 160hp & 400tq.

At about 200K, Kms I had a tune up done at Cummins, they dyno all vehicles after the tune up (most of their jobs a big commercial semi trucks).

it dyno at 160hp and the as told “most of them dyno to 130hp yours has more power”)
They are dyno at the rear wheels.

the truck was completely stock, I did replace the OEM exhaust because it rusted out with just a regular pipe and muffler.

The Cummins engine has come a long way. Now, the EcoD is stronger than that, and the Cummins is double the EcoD. Lol. I guess that's really happened to all engines though. I mean, 20 years ago the thought of a 480 horsepower base model Mustang GT would have been nuts.

I saw where the 2021 Cummins HO is going to 1,075 lb/ft. I wonder where this pissing match between Ram and Ford will end? It's already into CDL territory for max towing on the 1-tons now.