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[ErikTheRed]

Have never got the Continue Driving message, which I hope is a good thing.

Uh, doesnt EVERY regen cycle show the message "active regeneration in progress, continue driving" on the EVIC DPF screen? Ive got 8500 miles on my 24 and Ive never seen a regen message that didn't include "continue driving". Even the very first timed regen said to "continue driving", and so far, ALL of the regens have been timed, never soot-based. You guys are confusing me.

 

[mbarber84]

Uh, doesnt EVERY regen cycle show the message "active regeneration in progress, continue driving" on the EVIC DPF screen? Ive got 8500 miles on my 24 and Ive never seen a regen message that didn't include "continue driving". Even the very first timed regen said to "continue driving", and so far, ALL of the regens have been timed, never soot-based. You guys are confusing me.

No.

There are two distinctly different messages.

Normal regeneration message is:

“Automatic exhaust system regeneration in progress”

The “intervention strategy” regeneration message is:

“Automatic exhaust system regeneration in process continue driving”

The normal message is what you should see on the instrument cluster whenever you scroll to the DPF page while the truck is actively regenerating. The “intervention strategy” message pops up on the instrument cluster regardless of which page your on. It also causes a “chime” from the instrument cluster. The only time you should ever see the intervention strategy message is if the normal regeneration cycles have repeatedly been interrupted (shutting off or parking during regeneration, or operating in conditions where a regeneration would not be effective). If you’re seeing that message all the time, you need to adjust your driving habits or start paying attention to when the truck is nearing a regeneration. Repeatedly interrupting the regen cycles will, in most cases, ultimately lead to more DPF related issues down the road.

 

[Trash Panda]

You could also be like me, never receive the “continue driving” warning, and be subject to frequent regens anyways.

It’s black magic, as far as I’m concerned.

 

[sstoner911]

I am pretty confident I interrupt regens all the time. Never had any messages pop up in 31K miles. I have seen the DPF gauge at like 1/4? maybe but then if I happen to think about it I will check it and its at zero.

Truck makes shorts trips daily so maybe the man behind the curtain is busy with other things.

 

[ErikTheRed]

No.

There are two distinctly different messages.

Normal regeneration message is:

“Automatic exhaust system regeneration in progress”

The “intervention strategy” regeneration message is:

“Automatic exhaust system regeneration in process continue driving”

The normal message is what you should see on the instrument cluster whenever you scroll to the DPF page while the truck is actively regenerating. The “intervention strategy” message pops up on the instrument cluster regardless of which page your on. It also causes a “chime” from the instrument cluster. The only time you should ever see the intervention strategy message is if the normal regeneration cycles have repeatedly been interrupted (shutting off or parking during regeneration, or operating in conditions where a regeneration would not be effective). If you’re seeing that message all the time, you need to adjust your driving habits or start paying attention to when the truck is nearing a regeneration. Repeatedly interrupting the regen cycles will, in most cases, ultimately lead to more DPF related issues down the road.

Hmmm.... very interesting. First, let me just say that I'm nothing if not an absolute lunatic about our driving habits and use of the truck, and I'm very cautious about regens and monitoring DPF health and, well, pretty much everything about this truck I pay very close attention to. I use AR6500 in EVERY tank. In 8500 miles the truck has never performed a single soot-based regen and I'm hyper-aware of regen timing, always careful to make sure the truck completes a regen before shutting it off and I always make sure that regens occur only while highway driving-- even if/when it means I have to drive WAY beyond my destination and back again to let it complete. This is part of that regen / engine hours timing you referred to, and I watch it like a hawk. Only once have I ever had to shut the truck off during a regen because I had no choice under the circumstances. DPF gauge reads 0 most of the time and when it does eventually develop a blip or two, I take it on an intentional highway drive just to clear the blocks.... because having even just one block on the gauge drives me nuts. (Owning this truck so far has been an uncomfortable and stressful PITA, truth be told. I miss my 06.) As for the "intervention strategy" message popping up when on another EVIC screen, I have no idea if thats ever happened because my EVIC lives exclusively on the DPF screen. But, I've never heard a chime accompany the message. I'm fairly certain the only regen message I've ever seen would be the "normal" one, and its possible that maybe all the reading of forum comments is getting mixed in with real-world experience. In other words, perhaps the message I'm seeing during a regen doesn't actually say the "continue driving" part, I could be wrong about that. I'll be sure to pay special attention to that when the next timed regen rolls around in about 16 hours.

 

[mbarber84]

Hmmm.... very interesting. First, let me just say that I'm nothing if not an absolute lunatic about our driving habits and use of the truck, and I'm very cautious about regens and monitoring DPF health and, well, pretty much everything about this truck I pay very close attention to. I use AR6500 in EVERY tank. In 8500 miles the truck has never performed a single soot-based regen and I'm hyper-aware of regen timing, always careful to make sure the truck completes a regen before shutting it off and I always make sure that regens occur only while highway driving-- even if/when it means I have to drive WAY beyond my destination and back again to let it complete. This is part of that regen / engine hours timing you referred to, and I watch it like a hawk. Only once have I ever had to shut the truck off during a regen because I had no choice under the circumstances. DPF gauge reads 0 most of the time and when it does eventually develop a blip or two, I take it on an intentional highway drive just to clear the blocks.... because having even just one block on the gauge drives me nuts. (Owning this truck so far has been an uncomfortable and stressful PITA, truth be told. I miss my 06.) As for the "intervention strategy" message popping up when on another EVIC screen, I have no idea if thats ever happened because my EVIC lives exclusively on the DPF screen. But, I've never heard a chime accompany the message. I'm fairly certain the only regen message I've ever seen would be the "normal" one, and its possible that maybe all the reading of forum comments is getting mixed in with real-world experience. In other words, perhaps the message I'm seeing during a regen doesn't actually say the "continue driving" part, I could be wrong about that. I'll be sure to pay special attention to that when the next timed regen rolls around in about 16 hours.

Based on everything you said, my guess would be your brain is “adding” the “continue driving” portion of the message. Next time it goes into regen, take a look at the message you see and snap a pic. From what you’re saying, it should not say “continue driving”

 

[BlueOx2500]

I started my archoil AR6500 experiment on July 5. I opted to skip the AR6400D and went with the double dose of 6500. With a full tank on the 5th I went into regen at the start of a 1 hour drive at 75 mph. Took 35 min to complete. Then hour drive home on the 7th. My gauge stayed at zero till the 13th (this never happens) and then steadily climbed to about 45% this morning the 18th. My week day driving is very "in town" and no towing. So I expect this. I do believe it has made an improvement based on what I typically see week to week. Probably should have started with the D but I was being cheap at the time lol.

I recently started seeing some load on my DPF screen when I usually see none so I skipped the "D" bottle too and have started using the 6500 at the 2 to 10 gallon ratio. I had to change stations where I get my fuel so I'm thinking maybe that's why I started getting an indication on the DPF screen. I had been using the 76 station R95 for thousands of miles with no additive and it worked like a charm. Then my station went cheap-o and ripped down their 76 signs and changed to some generic brand and no more R95. I know R95 fuel is pretty limited as to where you can get it, but if you can get it, I'd recommend it. I think the main reason why it works so well is that it is a higher cetane and burns cleaner. (I don't care about the supposed environmental benefits of R95, I just know from using it a lot that it actually works better and I get a higher MPG that I manually calculated)

I've got 55,000 some miles on my '22 and started tracking active regens at 440 engine hours. 440 hours because I didn't even know to look at it until then being a first time diesel owner. I have no idea how many miles I go between regens - only engine hours. Since starting at 440 hours and now having 1305 hours on the truck I have seen only 1 soot-load based regen and I believe I know why that happened. That day I was actually in an "off-road" 4x4 situation with lots of slow / low RPM driving and idle. Plus I had to use whatever fuel I could find in Utah at the time. Since that day the only regens that occur are the 24 hour regens.

This does lead to a follow-up quesiton though for us that can get "renewable" (R95) diesel - is Archoil (or any additive) really even needed with that fuel? Maybe for lubricity? I'm experimenting with it now. I don't see any talk on the internet down in the specifics of additive vs the type of diesel. They all just lump all diesel fuel into one category as far as I've found.