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Boogie bumps for towing

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As I explore things for this truck I stumbled on to a really cool options for adding support while towing.

But I’m just curious if anyone has used either of these products yet

www.thurenfabrication.com

2014-2026 Ram 2500/PW Boogie Bump LCS

Upgrade your 2014-2024 Ram 2500 and Power Wagon with Thuren's innovative Boogie Bump Load Control System (LCS). Compatible with OEM and Thuren Rear Coils, plus other brand coils up to 2" lift. Easy installation, superior ride quality. Limited kits available now. #ThurenFabrication...
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I know, or at least I’ve read, that a lot of you folks use the boogie bumps for your front bump stops. I just haven’t come across much talking about them as rear bump stops… Especially for towing. The linked bumps are interesting because you can take the towing support foam out and put your regular bumps back in for daily driving

There is also this very cool airbag set up that allows you to take them out when you’re just Daily driving, and put them back in when you need them.

fulltravelbags.com

Full Travel Airbag System - RAM trucks

We did it! The only "have your cake and eat it" airbag system for your 2014+ RAM 2500.
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If you need gimmicks like that then you need more truck. I used to have a 14k fifth wheel with ~3k pin weight never had a problem. No gimmicks needed.
 
Rockcrawlindude said:
I’ve got sumo springs and I really like them. I have a thread about them.
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If you’re willing please post a link, it will save me a ton of time searching ab sifting.

Im pretty sure im going to try these boogies since they’re able to be changed back out, but i enjoy reading user views on this stuff.
 
Gren71 said:
If you’re willing please post a link, it will save me a ton of time searching ab sifting.

Im pretty sure im going to try these boogies since they’re able to be changed back out, but i enjoy reading user views on this stuff.
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My truck setup is stock springs
1” front spacer
Fox 2.0 shocks
Removed both swaybars
Truck Gear etc typical weight 8000lb
Trailer tongue typical weight 900lb add’tl


Rockcrawlindude

Thread 'Sumo springs Installed and tested. Ongoing.'

TDLR:
- easy to install.
- squat busters.
- initial drive they seemed pretty stiff.
- large bumps like speed bumps are stiff.
- after more miles I’m happy with them when unloaded despite occasional hard bumps
- phenomenal towing experience



I decided to try sumo springs as a load helper on my Ram. The main problem is the fact that my truck is “leveled” 1” and when I start towing that makes my truck look nose high. The bulletproof and maintenance free aspect drew me to try these.

So what’s the deal?

Sumo spring SSR-312-47

2019 Ram 2500


Kit weight : 8 lb
Kit contents...
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Rockcrawlindude said:
My truck setup is stock springs
1” front spacer
Fox 2.0 shocks
Removed both swaybars
Truck Gear etc typical weight 8000lb
Trailer tongue typical weight 900lb add’tl


Rockcrawlindude

Thread 'Sumo springs Installed and tested. Ongoing.'

TDLR:
- easy to install.
- squat busters.
- initial drive they seemed pretty stiff.
- large bumps like speed bumps are stiff.
- after more miles I’m happy with them when unloaded despite occasional hard bumps
- phenomenal towing experience



I decided to try sumo springs as a load helper on my Ram. The main problem is the fact that my truck is “leveled” 1” and when I start towing that makes my truck look nose high. The bulletproof and maintenance free aspect drew me to try these.

So what’s the deal?

Sumo spring SSR-312-47

2019 Ram 2500


Kit weight : 8 lb
Kit contents...
  • Like
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Ty!

Ill be stock height…but

800-850lbs tongue (have to weigh it/scale it again)
650lbs golf cart in bed
600lbs of humans+dog
150lbs of wood+ancillary stuff

Totaling 2,250lbs (ball park)
With 1,500lbs of that basically resting directly on the rear axle.

Still on the fence on what to go with. Ive had sumos on a lot of other vehicles, but ive had a bad taste after having them on my 1500 for a short time. They were set up similarly to how they are on the 2500 in that they sit “about” 1in off the pad. Allowing them to engage quickly…but meaning they engage with normal driving.

My HOPE is since the boogies are rated for nearly the same weight as the sumos they will do the trick while allowing an easy swap for daily driving.
 
I ran bags on a previous 2500 and with them you can eliminate squat or dang near close to nothing. My 3500 SRW had the ALRS from the factory and that was great. Those bump stops are gonna be rough going if you're loaded and they are bottoming out, if that's your intention for them, which is not a good idea. The Sumos are a great idea for off-roading ease of use, in and out, but if you aren't gonna do much of that, then bags will do you fine.
 
rossagge said:
I ran bags on a previous 2500 and with them you can eliminate squat or dang near close to nothing. My 3500 SRW had the ALRS from the factory and that was great. Those bump stops are gonna be rough going if you're loaded and they are bottoming out, if that's your intention for them, which is not a good idea. The Sumos are a great idea for off-roading ease of use, in and out, but if you aren't gonna do much of that, then bags will do you fine.
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My concern with bags is that they require 5lbs in them at all times, making ride a bit harsher.

If I were to go to bags I would use the ones I linked in the first post since I can swap them in and out as needed. But even then that’s a steep price to pay for an experiment.

My intention with the boogie bumps linked is that id have regular bump stops in for daily driving, and the larger ones in for towing only. If they’re similar to the sumo’s theyll be a bit stiffer for towing…but hopefully not TOO harsh.

I had airlift 1000 bags in two different vehicles and found that they made the ride harsher when inflated and towing then sumos did. I did try some offbrand eBay timbren knock offs that were basically just hard rubber. They were miserable to tow with. I have a set of Timbrens sitting in the garage now but I’m hesitant to use them because the material feels the same as the cheap knock offs.
 
I’ve used boogie bumps on the front of a diesel but don’t see the need on a hemi. I wouldn’t want them out back, so the only thing I’d consider is airbags.
 
My truck empty with bags running between 3-5 psi rides just the same as it did prior. Tire pressure has more of a bearing on ride at that point (empty/not towing) IMO.


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For what it's worth I've run my airlift bags with the internal bumper on 0 psi for years with no issues as do many others on the forum. I've also never felt any meaningful difference in ride quality between 0-5psi when the truck is empty which makes sense as the bags should be doing no work in that scenario.
 
If you’re going to go through the process of installing and removing the sumo/boogie every time then it would be easier to run airbags, in my opinion.

A Milwaukee inflator would make that a 10 sec per bag job.

I leave my sumos in all the time. I would have to jack up the truck to remove them. Or at least pull onto a curb with one rear tire at a time to flex it out a tiny bit
 
Ty yall. Im still doing the research and still need to hook up the camper with the golf cart in the rear rear see what the sag looks like. So all of the differing opinions and experiences are fantastic food for thought
 
whitexc said:
Bags? A great enhancement for these coil sprung 2500’s IMO.


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I have no idea why you guys need those “gimmicks”. I had a 3k pin weight fifth wheel on the back of mine, it sat level and didn’t bottom out. My current 8k TT barely compresses the rear suspension, 1k tongue weight. Yes, it is a bit rough empty, but tires, shocks and air pressure made a big difference.
 
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Ritchie_Rich said:
I have no idea why you guys need those “gimmicks”. I had a 3k pin weight fifth wheel on the back of mine, it sat level and didn’t bottom out. My current 8k TT barely compresses the rear suspension, 1k tongue weight. Yes, it is a bit rough empty, but tires, shocks and air pressure made a big difference.
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Ritchie…second time youve thrown out that these things are “gimmicks” i really appreciate that your TT is similar in weight to mine and I hope I have the same experience as you. Especially given your heavy pin weight since my main concern is having a golf cart in the bed now. However, some of us like to know what is available to fix POTENTIAL issues if we run into it. And there are a lot of 2500/3500 owners who use these devices successfully to control excess sag and make towing a better experience. Calling them gimmicks over and over comes off like your just running around trying to stoke and argument for no reason.
 
My 2000-2500 (depending on load in the RV) pin weight 5th wheel sagged my 2022 2500 2'-3". Was over on payload but never over on axel weight. I get the "set it and forget it" idea of the timbrens or these boogie bumps, there were many trips where we changed the weight in our trailer significantly throughout a 3 week trip and having to change the PSI in the bags to level out every time was getting annoying. I always worried that on big ass pot holes which are common place around here those unadjustable devices would just make the HD trucks harsh ride worse thats why I choose bags, so I COULD choose how much assist to give. In my new 3500 I still put on bags but this time added logIQ compressor so I can quickly and easily air up/down as needed making it much more enjoyable usage even though the bags don't do much helping now with the 3500's leaf spring setup.
 
Ritchie_Rich said:
I have no idea why you guys need those “gimmicks”. I had a 3k pin weight fifth wheel on the back of mine, it sat level and didn’t bottom out. My current 8k TT barely compresses the rear suspension, 1k tongue weight. Yes, it is a bit rough empty, but tires, shocks and air pressure made a big difference.
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I’m not sure if you are a troll or just like to state misinformation or you have a 3500. 3k pin weight on any 2500.

Thinking both after reading a bunch of your comments. Thanks for your time though. Glad these gimmicks aren’t necessary on your rig.

I would call straight ******** on this considering my “lightweight” 150 series GD 5er certainly squats my 2500 short bed. I am within payload by a few hundred fully loaded with firewood ahead of the hitch. The bags bring the rear of the truck back to a decent ride height and make the ride much nicer. Same for the dump trailer when it’s loaded up.


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whitexc said:
I’m not sure if you are a troll or just like to state misinformation or you have a 3500. 3k pin weight on any 2500.

Thinking both after reading a bunch of your comments. Thanks for your time though. Glad these gimmicks aren’t necessary on your rig.

I would call straight ******** on this considering my “lightweight” 150 series GD 5er certainly squats my 2500 short bed. I am within payload by a few hundred fully loaded with firewood ahead of the hitch. The bags bring the rear of the truck back to a decent ride height and make the ride much nicer. Same for the dump trailer when it’s loaded up.


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Well, I was over payload and gvwr. But under the rawr of 6500lbs.
Call it whatever you want, that doesn’t change anything.
 
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