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3500 RAM Charger HD with Cummins Generator

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Hi All I’m New to this Forum,​

Does anyone know when RAM is coming out with a 3500 RAM Charger HD With a Cummins Generator that will pull 40,000 lbs + and go 800 miles + on a tank of Regular Gas, Diesel or maybe even Propane? RAM also needs to keep the Cummins Name, Cummins makes Great Generators with proven reliably. I’m currently a RAM 3500 6.7 HO RAMBox owner with 100 k + on my truck and regularly pull a 45 ft 5th wheel and need/want new truck but I’m waiting for the one I’ve described above does anyone know when RAM will build it ?​

 
Uh...........what??? Maybe in 20never. You are talking about a diesel electric, very heavy and expensive.

I would happy if RAM came out with a HD diesel hybrid to increase mileage moderately.
 
RAMMITDOWN said:
Uh...........what??? Maybe in 20never. You are talking about a diesel electric, very heavy and expensive.

I would happy if RAM came out with a HD diesel hybrid to increase mileage moderately.
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Edison trucks is designing a kit to do just that with e axles and the cummins as a generator that only runs when needed
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
Edison trucks is designing a kit to do just that with e axles and the cummins as a generator that only runs when needed
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some of the big rig stuff and the electric conversions al beit way out of my price range are actually amazing to see. debose garage has a bunch of videos on the work they are doing on them.
 
oledirteh said:
some of the big rig stuff and the electric conversions al beit way out of my price range are actually amazing to see. debose garage has a bunch of videos on the work they are doing on them.
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They are working with edison truck aswell. And if I was ever going to look into electric thats the system I would go with
 
IF RAM did a hybrid, to keep it inexpensive and at least feasible
1. They would need to downsize the Cummins engine (output-250hp/550 lb.ft.) to reduce fuel consumption
2. Mount the electric motor to the tail shaft of the transmission (include transfer case)to assist when towing (250hp/500lb.ft)
3. On demand tune-ability to meet load requirements.
4. Decent reduction of emissions, increased mileage and financially reasonable.
5. All in my dreams.......................

The Edison Motors package is very interesting - a true diesel electric. Very cool, sounds like pricing will be roughly $35-55k in US dollars. Not for the faint of heart!!
 
RAMMITDOWN said:
IF RAM did a hybrid, to keep it inexpensive and at least feasible
1. They would need to downsize the Cummins engine (output-250hp/550 lb.ft.) to reduce fuel consumption
2. Mount the electric motor to the tail shaft of the transmission (include transfer case)to assist when towing (250hp/500lb.ft)
3. On demand tune-ability to meet load requirements.
4. Decent reduction of emissions, increased mileage and financially reasonable.
5. All in my dreams.......................

The Edison Motors package is very interesting - a true diesel electric. Very cool, sounds like pricing will be roughly $35-55k in US dollars. Not for the faint of heart!!
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They're already coming out with a decoupled hybrid gas/electric truck, the Ramcharger. V6 gas generator, 600+ HP/Tq electric motors. It's not diesel, but I doubt they'll ever bother with that. It wouldn't take much to scale it up to meet or easily surpass HD truck levels.
 
jsalbre said:
They're already coming out with a decoupled hybrid gas/electric truck, the Ramcharger. V6 gas generator, 600+ HP/Tq electric motors. It's not diesel, but I doubt they'll ever bother with that. It wouldn't take much to scale it up to meet or easily surpass HD truck levels.
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I wonder if the Ecodiesel would've been a better option than the Pentastar for this application. I know the Ecodiesels had their issues, but I had zero issues with my 2015 and loved it until I outgrew it and upgraded to my 6.7.
 
g00fy said:
I wonder if the Ecodiesel would've been a better option than the Pentastar for this application. I know the Ecodiesels had their issues, but I had zero issues with my 2015 and loved it until I outgrew it and upgraded to my 6.7.
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My assumption is the chose gas because it’s just cheaper, simpler, and doesn’t require all the emissions components. It’s also lighter, on a truck that’s already going to be heavy because of batteries. The majority of drivers will likely use these trucks in electric only mode most of the time (I think it’s supposed to be ~200 mile range unloaded) so I don’t think it would work a diesel hard enough to keep everything in good working order.
 
jsalbre said:
My assumption is the chose gas because it’s just cheaper, simpler, and doesn’t require all the emissions components. It’s also lighter, on a truck that’s already going to be heavy because of batteries. The majority of drivers will likely use these trucks in electric only mode most of the time (I think it’s supposed to be ~200 mile range unloaded) so I don’t think it would work a diesel hard enough to keep everything in good working order.
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The emission components (cost) makes sense when comparing gas to diesel production wise. However, range, especially at capacity (36,000 lbs.) is the real issue. The Ramcharger will be, possibly, a hit with the 1/2 ton crowd that drives around town. I'm still not sold on the "decoupled" gas engine electric system for heavy, long haul loads, especially in stop and go traffic (like Seattle). After viewing the info, I respect RAM's innovation in bringing a gas-electric to market. You wont be pulling your 36 foot 5th wheel with a Ramcharger. Obviously, electric motors produce immense torque/power at a low rpm (pull from start) and ability to handle heavy loads - see locomotive diesel electric. I don't have my calculations done, but it seems if "decoupled" drive-trains are the future, then a diesel is the best choice. Diesels provide more torque at a lower rpm (efficiency) to drive a generator than a gas engine. Soooo, you could use a smaller displacement diesel engine tuned to run at a constant, fuel efficient, clean rpm to deliver the power needed to drive the generator and achieve the power needed to pull heavy loads. IMHO, Edison Motors is very interesting, however, I don't see the need for 8800lb.ft. of torque in a light duty (1500/2500/3500) truck (no disrespect). Guys, don't flame me too bad!!!!
 
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