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Just took my 22 ram 2500 to dealer because it wobbles when pulling my fifth wheel wen going over bumps. Sometimes you have to slow down to get it to stop. Wife not happy. Dealer said this is normal when you have the air suspension. Seems funny that a 2500 is for pulling and now they say it wont work with the optional suspension. Not a happy customer
 
The 2500 suspension has the springs (either coil or air) inboard of the frame rails, so it struggles with stability with a heavy bed load such as a 5th wheel. Most people pulling 5ht wheels use 3500s for this reason. The best fix is to add helper airbags which replace the bump stops and thus sit outside of the frame rails. These will increase side to side stability immensely.
 
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fly6 said:
Just took my 22 ram 2500 to dealer because it wobbles when pulling my fifth wheel wen going over bumps. Sometimes you have to slow down to get it to stop. Wife not happy. Dealer said this is normal when you have the air suspension. Seems funny that a 2500 is for pulling and now they say it wont work with the optional suspension. Not a happy customer
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The dealership is lying. I pull a 5th wheel with my 2500 with factory air bags. My ram does not wobble. For reference, I pull a 5th wheel with a 10.5k gvwr.
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fly6 said:
Just took my 22 ram 2500 to dealer because it wobbles when pulling my fifth wheel wen going over bumps. Sometimes you have to slow down to get it to stop. Wife not happy. Dealer said this is normal when you have the air suspension. Seems funny that a 2500 is for pulling and now they say it wont work with the optional suspension. Not a happy customer
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After contacting customer service and being told to go to three different dealers and getting three different answers, I was fed up with Ram and their customer service. My truck rocked side to side so bad that it lost power and slowed down, including one time with a dealer tech riding with me who told the service writer that the truck was dangerous to drive. Customer service just kept giving me lip service that they had never heard of the problem and could not look it up on google. This was my first and last Ram. I only have a 34 ft fifth wheel camper. I was told the camper was to heavy for the truck. So much for Ram being heavy duty.Very disappointed ion a $90000 truck.
 
Well I got my problem fixed. 24 2500 GMC Denali. Again first and last Ram. So long
 
fly6 said:
Well I got my problem fixed. 24 2500 GMC Denali. Again first and last Ram. So long
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This is not the airport. No need to announce your departure.

Always amusing to see someone come and complain because they bought the wrong truck for the job.

I know, you looked at the marketing payload and towing and paid zero attention to the actual as-built numbers for your config and that's RAM's fault?

You said nothing about the truck model. Hemi or Cummins, mega or quad cab, short or long bed. No payload sticker posted. Nothing about the RV except length. GVWR? Pin weight? What did the scale numbers look like? Was the trailer level when hooked?
 
Brutal_HO said:
This is not the airport. No need to announce your departure.

Always amusing to see someone come and complain because they bought the wrong truck for the job.

I know, you looked at the marketing payload and towing and paid zero attention to the actual as-built numbers for your config and that's RAM's fault?

You said nothing about the truck model. Hemi or Cummins, mega or quad cab, short or long bed. No payload sticker posted. Nothing about the RV except length. GVWR? Pin weight? What did the scale numbers look like? Was the trailer level when hooked?
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I'm pretty certain his problem was that he had a 2500 for a 5th wheel and didn't add airbags. That's never going to be very stable.
 
jsalbre said:
I'm pretty certain his problem was that he had a 2500 for a 5th wheel and didn't add airbags. That's never going to be very stable.
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I never found a stability issue with my 5th wheel on my 2500. My stability issue came with the water tote and winding back roads with my heavy foot lol.

I wonder if he had a single pivot hitch that could add some rocking
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
I never found a stability issue with my 5th wheel on my 2500. My stability issue came with the water tote and winding back roads with my heavy foot lol.

I wonder if he had a single pivot hitch that could add some rocking
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I forgot you’re in a 2500. Either way, if you’re towing a 5er with a 2500 and have “wobble” issues I’d think the quick and easy solve would be air bags.
 
jsalbre said:
I forgot you’re in a 2500. Either way, if you’re towing a 5er with a 2500 and have “wobble” issues I’d think the quick and easy solve would be air bags.
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For sure there are much better options than losing money on a truck to buy another wrong truck.

But from the few posts he made i doubt he does any informed or thought out decisions.
 
I have a 24 2500 Laramie Cummins and pull an 11k fifth wheel. I do get some sag and have sloppy steering ( I believe from the Mopar leveling kit)( was fine when stock,)But haven’t had any wobble issues..
I do want to upgrade my suspension,but love this truck….
 
I believe the gmc 2500 has a max tow package or something that brings the capacity close to a 3500. If so then best of luck with the new truck.
 
I could drive any pickup I wanted; the main reasons I chose the Ram 2500 are the Cummins straight six, the rear suspension, and the interior. Notice I said 2500 and rear suspension. Yes, I know the limitations of the design, however, it performs very well for what I tow (which I don't do too often). I have a 32' gooseneck trailer with air ride and hydraulic disc brakes, I have had some extreme loads on it with no performance issues. Also, I tow several different bumper-pull trailers, no issues there either. However, with tall loads and a solid fifth wheel, the rear setup on the 2500 Ram is not ideal; the problem is not the spring rate, but the inboard placement of the coils. Adding a sway bar to the rear is not as good as moving the springs further outboard. The sway bar in the rear makes the load behave like an upside down pendulum. With leaf springs in the rear, the springs are further outboard AND leaf springs have internal friction that helps to resist the 'pendulum effect'. For gooseneck and bumper pull trailers, the five-link with coils performs at least as good as the leaf sprung setups. Empty, the five-link with coils rides better than leafs. But with tall high center of gravity fifth-wheel trailers, the five-link is far from ideal...
Also, the Ram 2500 is 10,000 lbs GVWR while the GM/Chev 2500 is 11,350 lbs with the Duramax. So that 'rating' handicaps the Ram 2500. Although I would have no problem loading up the rear axle to its full rating of 6,040 lbs, which allows about 3,000 lbs on the ball. Of course that puts it about 1,500 lbs over GVWR since the payload on my door says 2,030 lbs and we still need a driver, et cetera...
 
fly6 said:
Just took my 22 ram 2500 to dealer because it wobbles when pulling my fifth wheel wen going over bumps. Sometimes you have to slow down to get it to stop. Wife not happy. Dealer said this is normal when you have the air suspension. Seems funny that a 2500 is for pulling and now they say it wont work with the optional suspension. Not a happy customer
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That's B.S. they just don't want to troubleshoot the problem. Probably don't have the technician for that system. Seems to be a nationwide problem, customer service is no longer a priority in this current day and age. They've already got your money after the sale.
 
My $.02. Regarding OP wobbling when pulling trailer

Wobbles is such a weird word to describe anything related to pulling a trailer unless we’re talking about a herniated belt in a tire or a bent wheel. But I’m gonna take a stab at it.

It seems like people are complaining about the rear suspension but “wobbles” isn’t something the rear suspension can really do. Many people complain about the wheel hop that the 2500 can have but that’s an unloaded problem so maybe we need more tongue weight in this scenario? IMHO most towing issues come down to not enough tongue weight.
 
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