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Bad Fuel Causing Regen Issue?

Will_T

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All my regens to this point have been 24 hours. Never had one start in between. Just got back from a 2.500 mile camping trip, pulling our 8,000 lb. TT. At the apogee of the trip visiting relatives in northern Colorado, the following happened. The truck was at 14 hours and my iDash “DPF RG%” was showing around 70%. The normal behavior is that it bounces around a bit when under 50, but once it reaches 50, it switches to tracking time and climbs steadily to 100 when it does a regen. These regens are silent, no EVIC notices unless on the DPF screen, no warnings or chimes. You would never know unless you were on the DPF EVIC screen or had something like the iDash. They vary a bit but generally take about 10 to 15 miles of driving and 15 minutes or so to complete.

This time the regen started at that 14 hour point and with the iDash at about 70%. This has never happened before. I had just filled up with fuel a bit earlier. This was at a time in the trip when I was at the relatives and not towing the TT. I had probably driven 10 or 15 miles from idle to 50 mph since the new fuel. Suddenly I got dings from the EVIC and a warning over the main gauge screen to keep driving. I was not on the DPR screen, this warning was overriding any screen I displayed on the EVIC. This has never happened before with either the warning message or the chiming. I would clear it, and it would come back 30 seconds to a minute later. I did continue driving for about 30 minutes, but the regen did not complete. I dropped off my wife and went out on a rural highway where I could cruise uninterrupted at 70 mph. After about 25 minutes of that, the regen completed. However, after completion, the iDash did not show some low % like it usually does, it immediately started at 48%. For the next 50 miles or so, most of it towing again, it bounced up and down between 46 and 54%. It did not just start counting up evenly after 50% like it normally does.

As we continued to drive, the iDash started quickly climbing towards 100%, sometimes going up a percent or two in just 30 seconds. When it got to around 85%, it slowed but still climbed on track to do another regen probably in what was actually going to be about 4 or 5 hours. I then needed fuel, having used up about 80% of that last tank of diesel, so stopped and put another 40+ gallons or so in the Titan tank. Got back on the road and about 5 minutes later looked at the iDash and the DPF% was back down to 40%. Drove the rest of the day with the iDash DPF% climbing and acting normally and then filled the tank again. The next morning the DPF% was down to 23%. Never had it go down like that before. Then the rest of the trip home it acted normal, climbing slowly to 50%, then evenly to where it is now at 99%, about to do another regen at what will be exactly the 24-hour point. This was over I think three new tanks of fuel, so back to normal for now.

All I can think is that the diesel I put in when in Colorado must have been bad somehow. Once that had been diluted and burned up, the DPF was happy again. Does this make sense? Anyone seen this themselves?
 
I would be inclined to say yes, personally speaking. I only have about 4850 miles on my truck but I did notice something similar. The first few regens, when the truck was brand new, occurred at roughly the 850 mile mark. I changed fueling stations and had several regens occur at about 330, 380, and 450 miles. I went back to my original local diesel station (also used truck stop fuel on vacations etc. no issues) and the last two regens occurred at 950 miles and 710 miles. I have not noted any regens in the 3-400 mile range since I stopped using that one stations diesel. I’ve had 7 total regens since new with approximately 4,850 miles and about 133 engine hours. Hope this helps.
 
I would be inclined to say yes, personally speaking. I only have about 4850 miles on my truck but I did notice something similar. The first few regens, when the truck was brand new, occurred at roughly the 850 mile mark. I changed fueling stations and had several regens occur at about 330, 380, and 450 miles. I went back to my original local diesel station (also used truck stop fuel on vacations etc. no issues) and the last two regens occurred at 950 miles and 710 miles. I have not noted any regens in the 3-400 mile range since I stopped using that one stations diesel. I’ve had 7 total regens since new with approximately 4,850 miles and about 133 engine hours. Hope this helps.
Could the fuel at the alternate station be biodiesel? Possibly B20?
 
Could the fuel at the alternate station be biodiesel? Possibly B20?
I am not sure if the station I filled that tank at used biodiesel as I did not check. The only notice I have ever seen on pumps is that it MAY be blended 5 to 20%. But I see that sticker on all the stations when I think to look. It was a Sinclair station and I have used that brand several times previously and since with no issues. I have heard not to fuel when you see a tanker filling the underground tanks at a station as that process can stir up all kinds of crud and sediment. Not sure if that is accurate or not, plus there are filters on the pumps, I think? Anyway there was no tanker there at the time, but I suppose it could have just left. On the other hand, maybe my issue was not the result of the fuel at that fill up, I can't know for sure. Evidence seems to point that way though. In any case the regen was early and with lots of warnings to keep driving which never happened before so something was different. Plus the regen did not want to complete until I had driven for over an hour at highway speed for at least 60 or 70 miles I would estimate which also never happened before. Hopefully I will not have any more episodes like that but if I do, then I guess that would indicate maybe it was not the fuel. What a waste of fuel it is too to have to do that!
 
I am not sure if the station I filled that tank at used biodiesel as I did not check. The only notice I have ever seen on pumps is that it MAY be blended 5 to 20%. But I see that sticker on all the stations when I think to look. It was a Sinclair station and I have used that brand several times previously and since with no issues. I have heard not to fuel when you see a tanker filling the underground tanks at a station as that process can stir up all kinds of crud and sediment. Not sure if that is accurate or not, plus there are filters on the pumps, I think? Anyway there was no tanker there at the time, but I suppose it could have just left. On the other hand, maybe my issue was not the result of the fuel at that fill up, I can't know for sure. Evidence seems to point that way though. In any case the regen was early and with lots of warnings to keep driving which never happened before so something was different. Plus the regen did not want to complete until I had driven for over an hour at highway speed for at least 60 or 70 miles I would estimate which also never happened before. Hopefully I will not have any more episodes like that but if I do, then I guess that would indicate maybe it was not the fuel. What a waste of fuel it is too to have to do that!
My short regen interval issues occurred with Sinclair diesel as well! I’ve since gone back to Marathon with no issues.
 
Hmm maybe. i guess that could be a thing in your case. I also use Marathon diesel as its on my way home. if I'm traveling I'm usually pulling the 38ft so i use Love's truck stop or Sheetz.
 
I am experiencing almost daily regens now and I fill up everywhere. I don't think that is my issue.
 
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