Wanderlust073
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Thought you were suing or had the DA involved or something.
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Too much oil and poor dealer help
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Dinky503
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I was looking into getting the Attorney General involved. They will help resolve issues when the manufacturer refuses to fix. Since they are working on it and it come down to compensation not much more they can do as they are not legal counsel. They did say if they get enough complaints on the something it will trigger a investigation.
Suing FCA directly was never a option, they have enough money to out lawyer you any day. Only step you could take and win would be class action and or lemon law, Looking into both now.
One thing is for sure: the weather and temperature play a pivotal role. I was at about 10 hours and 83% on the DPF % REG on Friday evening after returning home from work. Dashboard gauge was showing one notch above the 25% mark, or roughly two notches prior to a regen initiating. We've had very cool mornings these past three days (temps running around 38-42°F with highs in the mid 60’s and low humidity). Drove the truck Saturday morning intermittently, then for an hour yesterday all highway, and then again for its 13 mile highway trip to work this morning. DPF % REG is now at 70%, engine hours are now about 13 or so, and Dash gauge is now down to the first notch (12.5%).
Still running the archoil 6500 at the 1oz per 10 gallon dosage.
As soon as the weather cools off, this thing starts passively regenerating so much better. Even with short 15 minute commutes to work in the morning.
Still running the archoil 6500 at the 1oz per 10 gallon dosage.
As soon as the weather cools off, this thing starts passively regenerating so much better. Even with short 15 minute commutes to work in the morning.
oledirteh
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your not wrong. i dont have anything to go as in depth as you can but the dash gauge showed 1.5 bars, 46 degreens sunday morning, 120 mile round trip and it went to 0. running archoil. im 20 hours in right now about 800 miles in and it hasnt done a regen. so like we said a while back, it gets cooler, these things regen less. fall to spring i dont think i do a regen other then 24 hour
Cool air = dense air.
Dinky503
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Mine it doesn't matter don't think lmao. We have 30deg swings in temp all the time today we hit 87ish tonight will drop to 50. Maybe that can contribute to mine? Too many variables and computer program can't keep up fast enough. Usually i drive in the morning to work or jobsite. Then I don't drive again untill after it warms up, might be shocking the system with extreme changes.
On days when we see substantial temperature swings morning to afternoon, mine will behave similarly.
Passive regen in the morning on the way to work around 5:30-6:30am, and then by 4-5pm on the way home it’ll “load up” again.
When the temps stay more mild generally, the truck will just continuously passive regen or at minimum not “load up”.
Indeed.
Makes me wonder why they can’t have these trucks adjust more rapidly to changing environmental conditions. I’ve read several manufacturer-sourced documents that reference the fact that these trucks:
“may take thousands of miles to learn depending on how the vehicle is driven”
Seems like it shouldn’t be too difficult a process to have it adjust but maybe there’s more that I’m missing. In an EPA-driven emissions environment, you would think “they” would want these trucks operating at the peak of cleanliness as much as possible. Doubling the number of needed active regeneration cycles to compensate for a “dirty” operating parameter seems very much counterintuitive to “helping the environment”.
Miss my 12 and 24 valve days a little more every day.
Thought this was interesting post that popped up on my feed. That FB microphone and cookie tracker is damn good cause I don’t follow this page hahahaha guy had dpf and injector issues, big rig Cummins engine. Maybe there’s more to the picture with Cummins than we are being told
Dinky503
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Yeah the bit right are same design. I think cummins, Ram and all parties are aware but trying to keep it on the down low. Cummins emissions scandal and now all the injector Regen issue would not look good at all.
superjoe83
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I feel like cummins/ram is just doing the bare minimum to address the issues on these trucks just long enough to get them out of warranty, then it's up to the end user to figure it out. This problem is likely more widespread than we know since most owners won't monitor regens and most trucks likely will not throw the frequent regen code. You rarely heard of a 13-18 truck having regen issues, 19-21 were also pretty good it seemed.
It's really frustrating that I had zero issues with my '18 3500 HO in the 38k that I had it, 24hr regens every time no matter how I drove it. I had to move to a DRW for my 5th wheel so that's where the '22 comes in, no real issues in the first year and a half, but now at year 2.5 I'm starting to have soot load issues, nothing has changed in the way I drive it, the only thing that has changed is the recall for the PM sensor that was performed earlier this year.
I hope they figure this our but I have my doubts
It's really frustrating that I had zero issues with my '18 3500 HO in the 38k that I had it, 24hr regens every time no matter how I drove it. I had to move to a DRW for my 5th wheel so that's where the '22 comes in, no real issues in the first year and a half, but now at year 2.5 I'm starting to have soot load issues, nothing has changed in the way I drive it, the only thing that has changed is the recall for the PM sensor that was performed earlier this year.
I hope they figure this our but I have my doubts
You hear that story all too often and people buying up low mileage 4th gens, like I did. Hell I could get a brand new 24 big horn or maybe laramie for what I paid for my 2018 limited but Im happy as can be. Its a shame that owners CANT just drive these things and move on with life, they have to document, take pictures, add fuel additives, multiple trips to the dealers when these things are more expensive than ever. I hope it catches up to Ram/Cummins, but I have a feeling more people will just delete them when issues arise
Dinky503
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That's the feeling I have gotten. They just keep kicking it down the road and hopefully you go away? I have a Ton of warranty left and hard for them to run from it but that's the feeling it get. The lady I was dealing with from Ram care was great at first but they hit the ceiling on payout on my claim and said no more.
Yup. Keep fixing till you go away. Cheaper than dealing with overall issue and I’m sure they know about this thread
Dinky503
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I know they do I sent it to Ram care lmao. "Look see the crap I've been going through "
If they were smart they’d realize this group is a rather committed to Ram trucks but they’ll lose a consumer base over this type of nonsense. Add same boring updates with nothing significant too.
Maybe they’re hoping everyone goes for this “new” engine they have coming with the 8 speed and everyone will forget about 2022 trucks hahaha
Dinky503
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They don't care too much money the average person can't touch. Everyone in this forum is a dying breed. Majority of people can barely start the car or put gas in it lol, and believe anything the dealership says. Dealerships protect the manufacturer and manufacturer protect the dealership.
Ain’t that the truth. Enthusiasts are such a small minority anymore
oledirteh
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the average person cant afford to fix half the stuff going on with these trucks let alone afford them anymore. My transmission alone cost someone 14000$ under warranty. and thats a "Easy fix" that they still messed up
What happened with the transmission? Did it not get fixed correctly?