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Stellantis's price increases highest amongst major brands.

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Stelantis is bound and determined to destroy what's left of CDJR. Between the crappy customer support from the dealers, 50% price hikes, and their plan to electrify the fleet that no one wants. last call Challenger/Charger rip-offs. It's almost as if they are trying to fail.

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I can't speak for the cars in the line up but the Ram trucks have traditionally been priced much lower than the competition so the big increase is just putting them more in line with the others. With that said, you can get a Ram well under MSRP where Ford will not budge an inch in most cases so that chart doesn't tell the complete story. Not defending them just clarifying the market we are in.

My eggs and everything else I need on a day to day basis has nearly doubled in price so par for the course of the current "situation" we are in...

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MtnRider said:
I can't speak for the cars in the line up but the Ram trucks have traditionally been priced much lower than the competition so the big increase is just putting them more in line with the others. With that said, you can get a Ram well under MSRP where Ford will not budge an inch in most cases so that chart doesn't tell the complete story. Not defending them just clarifying the market we are in.

My eggs and everything else I need on a day to day basis has nearly doubled in price so par for the course of the current "situation" we are in...

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Agree. A McChicken was $1 in 2018 and it’s $2.39 now lol
 
It’s the reason I bought a 81k Power Wagon for 63k. It’s actually not bad marketing. Raise the MSRP and give a huge factory incentive with dealer discounts, makes people feel good about what they’re buying when in fact the Power Wagon I just bought cost about $65k MSRP with no incentive or discount 2 years ago unless you ordered through one of the forum vendors.

Not defending them cause it’s also the reason their cars are sitting on lots longer than anyone’s but perspective is also important
 
NO question that the prices are higher... I think we all know that.
But data can be parsed out to tell any sort of story.

In the graph posted, is that MSRP change, or is that actual transaction change?
If it is MSRP, is it average of the change on each individual trim/model?
If it's transaction change, reflecting discount & rebates, how does it take into account the share of Laramies vs Tradesman for example, to be apples to apples?
How does it take into account that the Wrangler 4xe is significantly more expensive than ICE, but that's new, and not really what people end up paying?
These questions would of course effect the picture of all manufacturers, not just Stellantis.

Slowest selling vehicle is also a little bit of a misnomer if we're only going to use "days supply" or "days on lot"
Surely other vehicles sell less per day than a RAM truck.
Having over stock is not a good thing for the dealers, but doesn't tell the whole story.

I don't have any conclusions to draw here, other than sharing my habit I was raised with to question the news always.
I DO love data and charts though :)
 
MtnRider said:
I can't speak for the cars in the line up but the Ram trucks have traditionally been priced much lower than the competition so the big increase is just putting them more in line with the others. With that said, you can get a Ram well under MSRP where Ford will not budge an inch in most cases so that chart doesn't tell the complete story. Not defending them just clarifying the market we are in.

My eggs and everything else I need on a day to day basis has nearly doubled in price so par for the course of the current "situation" we are in...

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Yep, we get what we vote for.
 
sitting in Missoula, MT getting an oil change only with 5w40 for $160. That was only $115 a mere 3 years ago. last oil change for this truck @ 489,051 miles.
 
You can get a Dodge. I work with several companies that had to cancel or got their fleet orders canceled by Ford.
 
MtnRider said:
I can't speak for the cars in the line up but the Ram trucks have traditionally been priced much lower than the competition so the big increase is just putting them more in line with the others. With that said, you can get a Ram well under MSRP where Ford will not budge an inch in most cases so that chart doesn't tell the complete story. Not defending them just clarifying the market we are in.

My eggs and everything else I need on a day to day basis has nearly doubled in price so par for the course of the current "situation" we are in...

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There's plenty of dealers who will do an order for invoice - 3% or so on Fords. Off the lot or local you may be more over the barrel.
 
Don’t burn up your starter, dealer priced at a bargain for around $1500 installed in Washington state.
 

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