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What is a good deal these days, is this one?

hdas said:
It has everything I want + night package, which I don’t care for, but the front looks cool. My exact configuration is $82k MSRP. So ostensibly I could try to get 12-17% off that price, instead of $86k.
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If it has painted bumpers plan to spend $$ to PPF the entire front end or live with stone chips.

They look nice, but are too much maintenance for my blood.
 
There's a price sticky here.

Basically if it's not as good or better than Invoice - holdback - $500, it's not a great deal.

Mark Dodge and Granger are doing typically 4-5% under invoice. Those are great deals.
 
How much is holdback? Set price for trucks or a certain % or what?
 
A deal is on the table for a 13.63% off MSRP. However, two caveats:

1. The dealer has a ton of bad reviews on Yelp. It seems like a place to avoid.
2. The dealer said that there were "add ons" that weren't in the website price: tinting mask, appearance protection, dent protection. It all adds $2300. All this seems like a shady tactic. The 13.63% discount is inclusive of this BS.
3. They are unable, for some mysterious reason, to add the current RAM $2500 rebate.

Wondering if these red flags are sufficient to walk away from a potentially decent deal?

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hdas said:
A deal is on the table for a 13.63% off MSRP. However, two caveats:

1. The dealer has a ton of bad reviews on Yelp. It seems like a place to avoid.
2. The dealer said that there were "add ons" that weren't in the website price: tinting mask, appearance protection, dent protection. It all adds $2300. All this seems like a shady tactic. The 13.63% discount is inclusive of this BS.
3. They are unable, for some mysterious reason, to add the current RAM $2500 rebate.

Wondering if these red flags are sufficient to walk away from a potentially decent deal?

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Tell them you aren't paying for all that add-on crap that you don't want or need. They usually buckle under pretty quickly and either take it off or at least discount it heavily if they think they're about to lose the deal. They have very little actual cost in that stuff and make a killing on it if the buyer pays the full price on it.
 
Blythkd1 said:
Tell them you aren't paying for all that add-on crap that you don't want or need. They usually buckle under pretty quickly and either take it off or at least discount it heavily if they think they're about to lose the deal. They have very little actual cost in that stuff and make a killing on it if the buyer pays the full price on it.
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This is the breakdown

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I haven't submitted my counter yet. But I'm inclined to rounded to 75k
 
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hdas said:
A deal is on the table for a 13.63% off MSRP. However, two caveats:

1. The dealer has a ton of bad reviews on Yelp. It seems like a place to avoid.
2. The dealer said that there were "add ons" that weren't in the website price: tinting mask, appearance protection, dent protection. It all adds $2300. All this seems like a shady tactic. The 13.63% discount is inclusive of this BS.
3. They are unable, for some mysterious reason, to add the current RAM $2500 rebate.

Wondering if these red flags are sufficient to walk away from a potentially decent deal?

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I wouldn't walk away from them - I'd run away. Granger has a very good reputation of not fooling around.
 
hdas said:
thanks!. So those people waiting for 6-8 months are rare occurrences, I take....
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Real numbers:
I have 55 HD trucks that I ordered AND received in this calendar year. Out of those, 168 days was the longest delivery.

Remaining currently I have another 45 ordered this calendar year, but not delivered yet. One single straggler placed in February stuck in Mexico. Everything else was placed after 5/31.
Everything placed between 5/31 and 8/26 is in transit.

We certainly have had some freak scenarios over the last few years what with chip shortage, railcar shortage, and this spring with Hail was a mess. But I say realistically 80% of the trucks will land between 3-5 months. 10% get lucky, 10% unlucky.
 
AnthonyRI said:
Real numbers:
I have 55 HD trucks that I ordered AND received in this calendar year. Out of those, 168 days was the longest delivery.

Remaining currently I have another 45 ordered this calendar year, but not delivered yet. One single straggler placed in February stuck in Mexico. Everything else was placed after 5/31.
Everything placed between 5/31 and 8/26 is in transit.

We certainly have had some freak scenarios over the last few years what with chip shortage, railcar shortage, and this spring with Hail was a mess. But I say realistically 80% of the trucks will land between 3-5 months. 10% get lucky, 10% unlucky.
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This is helpful. Thanks a lot.
 
hdas said:
im getting 13.63%
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Under MSRP, and that's a great deal.

You're not getting 13.63% under invoice.

;)

However, the add-ons are utter BS and an unscrupulous practice to take money from you.

Invoice - holdback - $500 (or better) or walk. If you can wait, order the truck the way YOU want it and you'll typically get the best deal.
 
AnthonyRI said:
I have 55 HD trucks that I ordered AND received in this calendar year. Out of those, 168 days was the longest delivery.
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One naive question. if I order and then back out of the deal and don't want to take delivery......what's the penalty?
 
hdas said:
One naive question. if I order and then back out of the deal and don't want to take delivery......what's the penalty?
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Not naive at all. We can't MAKE you take the truck - but the deposit is non-refundable.
Our deposit policy has three caveats to that (that you'd sign before sending money)
- Truck shows up built NOT congruent with the POC (build sheet)
-Truck shows up with more than $1K damage as it arrives to Mark Dodge
- Truck takes longer than 9 months to receive (except for a specialty item like hellcats etc)

Also you are not sending the $ until after you have a signed copy of the build sheet, buyers order, etc - so that if I (or whoever you work with) gets hit by a train, you have copies of everything to execute the deal at the end.
 
@hdas

If ordering, do not sign anything with anyone without a signed printout of the dealer POC mentioned that includes full details of MSRP, invoice, holdback, EP pricing etc.
 
Brutal_HO said:
If ordering, do not sign anything with anyone without a signed printout of the dealer POC mentioned that includes full details of MSRP, invoice, holdback, EP pricing etc.
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Does doing most of the process through the website help with this?
 
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