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Regens at alarming rate!

There is no way that those 2 glue beads should cause that much restriction. I’ve seen trucks before 19+ models with the filter completely black with gunk on them and they had zero problem. I’ve seen people run them until they got a CEL and never have Regen issues. Has anyone tried disconnecting the ram air scoop on top of the radiator, having the air intake going straight in to the side of the air box? I know I get a lot of bugs in mine from it. I’m wondering if all of the shutters and stuff behind the grill is causing some kind of turbulence in the air system? But it seems to be the programming in the ECM as some who didn’t have any problems before having updates done on their trucks are now having issues. I still think it is some of the “Greenie” emissions updates without reengineering the system to make them work.
I agree that the two glue beads should not cause that much are restriction flow. The mopar filter I took out was really very dirty. But with the Wix, started having problems. Now they are seemingly fixed as soon as I put on a mopar again. I can’t explain it and it’s also my own anecdotal experience. So who really knows.
 
I agree that the two glue beads should not cause that much are restriction flow. The mopar filter I took out was really very dirty. But with the Wix, started having problems. Now they are seemingly fixed as soon as I put on a mopar again. I can’t explain it and it’s also my own anecdotal experience. So who really knows.
Mine is regenerating every 10-14 hours with combined city and highway (interstate)driving with 6200 miles (half of those towing a 7K travel trailer)and the original 5031ab filter. Sometimes the DPF gauge will go half way up to the 12.5% mark for a bit then go up to the 25% mark. Then a little highway running and it will drop back to halfway to the 12.5% from the bottom. It does this a couple of times and then when it hits 25% and goes into regen. IDK and I’m afraid the dealer isn’t going to know either. But it hasn’t thrown a CEL for the p2459 excessive regen frequency yet.
 
I don't believe the glue stripes has any effect other than keeping the pleats separated. The Mopar AA filter has 61 pleats and they feel lighter/thinner to the touch, and the Mopar AB filter is 45 pleats and feel thicker/stiffer.., so the difference would be air flow intake. With that I would guess the difference in filters is not allowing or allowing too much air flow into system, which then effects the emissions operation? But just a guess!
 
I don't believe the glue stripes has any effect other than keeping the pleats separated. The Mopar AA filter has 61 pleats and they feel lighter/thinner to the touch, and the Mopar AB filter is 45 pleats and feel thicker/stiffer.., so the difference would be air flow intake. With that I would guess the difference in filters is not allowing or allowing too much air flow into system, which then effects the emissions operation? But just a guess!
That’s as good of a theory as any others I’ve heard.
But there have been plenty of people with the older 19+ trucks without some of the later updates done running the AA filters without any problems or issues.
 
Dumb question....How can you see if the truck is doing a region? Ive never seen it to be honest.

Do you have to be watching the DPF gauge or will that "regen in progress" message appear somewhere else?
 
Dumb question....How can you see if the truck is doing a region? Ive never seen it to be honest.

Do you have to be watching the DPF gauge or will that "regen in progress" message appear somewhere else?
You have to be on the DPF gauge on the EVIC screen.
 
Quick update on my excessive regen situation and a warning to check your oil level!

I've been documenting my regens, dealer appointment in 3 weeks. Was getting ~120 miles then ~60 mile regens. Then I got a regen that took 250 miles to complete. 40 miles later a regen that took 400 miles to complete! Checked oil and it was high. Was changing fuel filters this weekend so picked up more oil as well.

I had almost 1 gallon of fuel in my oil! I had just changed my oil 1 month, 3k ago.

Seems to have gone back to 120 miles then 60 mile regens since oil and fuel filter change on Saturday.

All the right filters and fluids.
 
I feel for you with the fuel dilution but if and when they start having to replace these engines because of that then they will find the cause and a cure. If I remember correctly, the engine and entire emissions system is sold to FCA as a complete system. Maybe Cummins will get involved also. Good luck with the dealer visit.
 
Quick update on my excessive regen situation and a warning to check your oil level!

I've been documenting my regens, dealer appointment in 3 weeks. Was getting ~120 miles then ~60 mile regens. Then I got a regen that took 250 miles to complete. 40 miles later a regen that took 400 miles to complete! Checked oil and it was high. Was changing fuel filters this weekend so picked up more oil as well.

I had almost 1 gallon of fuel in my oil! I had just changed my oil 1 month, 3k ago.

Seems to have gone back to 120 miles then 60 mile regens since oil and fuel filter change on Saturday.

All the right filters and fluids.

Holy crap that is not good.
 
I have a 2020 Ram 2500 that is having the DPF see dealer message. Just spent the last two days reading this thread. Does anyone know if the Zurich heavy duty truck code reader from Harbor Frieght work for our trucks? I says it can force a regen. Thanks in advance
 
Don't know about the tool (my guess would be it doesn't work), but you would need a security bypass cable.
Thanks Jay. It would probably just get me into trouble.
 
I've also been downshifting to keep the RPMs over 2k while traveling over 55 mph. This was a recommendation from a service manager. Does this seems right?
 
I've also been downshifting to keep the RPMs over 2k while traveling over 55 mph. This was a recommendation from a service manager. Does this seems right?
Higher RPM=Lower EGT typically, while lugging the engine isn’t good it will heat up the after treatment system better than what your SA told you.
 
Higher RPM=Lower EGT typically, while lugging the engine isn’t good it will heat up the after treatment system better than what your SA told you.
Yeah, I have found this too. Towing at 65mph in 6th gear and rpm's are at about 1,500. Lock out 6th and it runs at 1,900 or so but with EGT temps much lower all the way around. Like 200+ degrees lower. So torn as to what is best. The truck runs all day with no complaints in 5th and with no noticible difference in MPGs. But having the EGTs a couple hundred degrees higher in 6th over all of a 4 or 5 hour drive seems good too????
 
Higher RPM=Lower EGT typically, while lugging the engine isn’t good it will heat up the after treatment system better than what your SA told you.
Sorry, what is EGT. I thought a higher RPM would raise temps. What are you referring to after treatment system? While regen is in process I understand you must be traveling over 55 mph. At that speed it's only pushing 1500 RPMs. Thanks for your input.
 
Sorry, what is EGT. I thought a higher RPM would raise temps. What are you referring to after treatment system? While regen is in process I understand you must be traveling over 55 mph. At that speed it's only pushing 1500 RPMs. Thanks for your input.
EGT=exhaust gas temperature
 
Sorry, what is EGT. I thought a higher RPM would raise temps. What are you referring to after treatment system? While regen is in process I understand you must be traveling over 55 mph. At that speed it's only pushing 1500 RPMs. Thanks for your input.
Higher RPM moves exhaust through the entire system (intake through exhaust tailpipe) faster, creating a cooling effect. Low rpm operation under load causes heat to be retained in the system. Back in my modified 12 valve cummins days I’d drop a gear on hills to cool things down, pulling a load up inclines for a extended period would come close to burying the egt gage. Drop a gear, instant cool down of a couple hundred degrees.
 
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