Travel Trailer Hitch

[silver billet]

As I suspected you meant something different than you said. You got the answer for your actual comment, not your intended comment. The weight transfer off or onto the front axle is irrelevant to the airbags it deals with payload/TW weight and moment.

See my addition above. It's quite obvious that any weight behind the rear axle will reduce the front axle weight, and just changing the ride height won't effect that.

The suspension is not a pivot point like a teeter totter thou, as it has vertical movement not rotational movement.

Incorrect. The pivot point is the rear axle. Any weight behind the rear axle will apply down force on the rear suspension. If you tighten that up with air bags, that force is still applied and has to go somewhere, which then pivots and begins upward movement to the front of your truck. I suggest you google this. "light steering" isn't exactly a new or uncommon phenomenon.

Are you confusing trailer sway with bow wave?

No. Google trailer sway and what causes it.

If there isn't sway there to begin with

There will always be those forces applied to your trailer, we don't drive in a vacuum completely isolated from everyone and road/weather conditions.

you don't need a hitch to "fix" it. It's a marketing gimmick, and a good one at that based on the number of people that throw money at a bandaid.

Completely incorrect. Pretty much every new WDH on the market these days (except for the very el-cheapo's) have some sort of sway control built right into the design. The more expensive ones like propride completely eliminate it, the cheaper ones just manage/control it somewhat.

With all the user reports and engineering that goes into this, its extremely arrogant for you to say that those who have upgraded to better hitches and are now successfully managing sway, somehow don't know what they're doing and have just improperly setup their stuff.

You have no humility whatsoever. Just attitude and derision for things you haven't thought through.

 

[AH64ID]

Incorrect. The pivot point is the rear axle. Any weight behind the rear axle will apply down force on the rear suspension. If you tighten that up with air bags, that force is still applied and has to go somewhere, which then pivots and begins upward movement to the front of your truck. I suggest you google this. "light steering" isn't exactly a new or uncommon phenomenon.

I didn't say it wasn't as pivot point, I said it wasn't a pivot point like a Teeter Totter. smh

I suggest you fully read and comprehend a comment before you reply, this isn't the first time you have done this today.

No. Google trailer sway and what causes it.

So yes, you're confusing/combining trailer sway and bow wave sway.

They manifest very differently, but can feel similar.

There will always be those forces applied to your trailer, we don't drive in a vacuum completely isolated from everyone and road/weather conditions.

What does that have to do with properly loading a trailer to actually eliminate trailer sway?

Completely incorrect. Pretty much every new WDH on the market these days (except for the very el-cheapo's) have some sort of sway control built right into the design. The more expensive ones like propride completely eliminate it, the cheaper ones just manage/control it somewhat.

With all the user reports and engineering that goes into this, its extremely arrogant for you to say that those who have upgraded to better hitches and are now successfully managing sway, somehow don't know what they're doing and have just improperly setup their stuff.

You are exemplifying what marketing teams droll over when they are trying to sell you something you don't need.

People spend money all the time on things they don't need and then have to justify to the world why it's actually needed. Who cares, spend your money how you want to...but don't spread misinformation to justify it.

 

[Jimmy Dean]

Get some ideas and do your own research.

This was the idea of this thread….

So far so good!

Yes travel trailer for the guy who asked.

 

[silver billet]

I didn't say it wasn't as pivot point, I said it wasn't a pivot point like a Teeter Totter. smh

Oh it most definitely is a pivot point like a teeter totter. The fact that you can't understand this speaks volumes for why you don't understand how air bags can exacerbate a light front end.

So yes, you're confusing/combining trailer sway and bow wave sway.

Google trailer sway:

Trailer Sway Control: Safe Towing Solutions

Prevent accidents with trailer sway control tips from Hensley. Learn about the 3 types of sway and how to eliminate them for a safer towing experience.

hensleymfg.com

What To Do When Trailer Sway Starts | Blue Ox

Learn what to do when trailer sway starts. From causes to prevention techniques. Learn to tow safely with help from Blue Ox!

www.blueox.com

What does that have to do with properly loading a trailer to actually eliminate trailer sway?

A trailer that doesn't have enough tongue weight relative to curb weight is far more susceptible to trailer sway.

You are exemplifying what marketing teams droll over when they are trying to sell you something you don't need.

It's kind of hard (ie: impossible) to purchase a blue ox, husky, and andersen etc without trailer sway features. It's built right in. Some hitches do it better than others, so pick wisely.

People spend money all the time on things they don't need and then have to justify to the world why it's actually needed. Who cares, spend your money how you want to...but don't spread misinformation to justify it.

The only misinformation here is yours.

 

[AH64ID]

Oh it most definitely is a pivot point like a teeter totter. The fact that you can't understand this speaks volumes for why you don't understand how air bags can exacerbate a light front end.



Google trailer sway:

Trailer Sway Control: Safe Towing Solutions

Prevent accidents with trailer sway control tips from Hensley. Learn about the 3 types of sway and how to eliminate them for a safer towing experience.

hensleymfg.com

What To Do When Trailer Sway Starts | Blue Ox

Learn what to do when trailer sway starts. From causes to prevention techniques. Learn to tow safely with help from Blue Ox!

www.blueox.com

A trailer that doesn't have enough tongue weight relative to curb weight is far more susceptible to trailer sway.


It's kind of hard (ie: impossible) to purchase a blue ox, husky, and andersen etc without trailer sway features. It's built right in. Some hitches do it better than others, so pick wisely.



The only misinformation here is yours.

Still not reading, still not comprehending, still repeating what I've said and trying to teach it to me... you're a hopeless cause, enjoy your day.

 

[silver billet]

Still not reading, still not comprehending, still repeating what I've said and trying to teach it to me... you're a hopeless cause, enjoy your day.

You're beyond teaching, that much is obvious. Your behaviour is toxic and arrogant beyond belief.

 

[silver billet]

Still not reading, still not comprehending, still repeating what I've said and trying to teach it to me... you're a hopeless cause, enjoy your day.

From blueox:

What To Do When Trailer Sway Starts | Blue Ox

Learn what to do when trailer sway starts. From causes to prevention techniques. Learn to tow safely with help from Blue Ox!

www.blueox.com

What Causes Trailer Sway?

There are a variety of things that can cause trailer sway to start. Some of the common trailer towing mistakes are avoidable, while others may not be. Having a clear idea of what could be causing your trailer to sway may help you be better prepared if it happens.

Wind Gusts

Wind is the most common cause of trailer sway. When there is a strong force pushing your trailer from one side or the other, it can cause it to sway from side to side. This is usually the result of strong gusts of wind or passing a high-profile vehicle such as an 18 wheeler who is traveling at high speeds. Wind can be unpredictable, but if you know you are traveling through an area that is windy, plan on giving yourself some extra time to get to your destination so you can drive a bit slower.

 

[areuriding]

I've never seen somebody so consistently post such bad information.

LOL, now that's funny..

 

[SnowBlaZR2]

What are your recommendations for a travel trailer hitch? Eventually plan on a toy hauler.

We're pulling with a 1500 for now, but we've used Husky, Andersen, and now have a ProPride. The ProPride is expensive, but it's everything they say it is. We've towed in 40 mph gusts and never felt out of control. The Andersen was very good for what it costs, and would be my recommendation if you don't want to spend the money on the ProPride. We're traveling full time and tow every week. On a $150k rig, the choice was easy. The Husky was OK, but worked about the same as the Andersen and was more of a PITA to deal with every week.

My opinion will be the same when we move up to a bigger truck. I'm not worried so much about how the rig handles driving straight down the highway. I'm worried how it handles in unexpected conditions from idiots on the road, weather, etc. To me, the cost of the ProPride is nothing for what it gives me.

 

[Jimmy Dean]

We're pulling with a 1500 for now, but we've used Husky, Andersen, and now have a ProPride. The ProPride is expensive, but it's everything they say it is. We've towed in 40 mph gusts and never felt out of control. The Andersen was very good for what it costs, and would be my recommendation if you don't want to spend the money on the ProPride. We're traveling full time and tow every week. On a $150k rig, the choice was easy. The Husky was OK, but worked about the same as the Andersen and was more of a PITA to deal with every week.

My opinion will be the same when we move up to a bigger truck. I'm not worried so much about how the rig handles driving straight down the highway. I'm worried how it handles in unexpected conditions from idiots on the road, weather, etc. To me, the cost of the ProPride is nothing for what it gives me.

I read some about the propride today and came to this same conclusion…enough people say it’s worth the money and it’s the 1% scenario that it prevents.

I pulled a 26 ft, 5500 lbs dry trailer this weekend with a $65 Reese hitch, no technology, nothing and it was not super pleasant.

I decided on eventually doing airbags to level (probably airlift 7500), and the propride (hopefully used) since I want an almost 35 ft TT.

 

[Jimmy Dean]

No one has mentioned Weigh Safe…seems intriguing to me. I think I would try this first before the ProPride.

 

[silver billet]

No one has mentioned Weigh Safe…seems intriguing to me. I think I would try this first before the ProPride.

There are pros and cons to every hitch. The WS is built like a tank, very high quality welds etc, and has that very useful built in scale. It's also heavy, and does not eliminate sway.

So it just depends on what you're looking for in a hitch.

 

[Bombaman]

I run a 3500 DRW with a ProPride on a ~8000lb trailer. Great setup, you still feel bow-wave, but its significantly easier to battle as you move as one, and the dually resists it pretty well.
Only issue I've had with it is where their yoke attaches, it does tend to move, and re-tigtening the U-bolts tends to gall out, so ended up just adding a couple of welds to keep it locked in.