Fox 2.5 Shocks for the Power Wagon.

[Trail_Wagon]

NEW
I found these this morning. I'm sure they were not available just a few weeks ago.

Fox 2.5 remote reservoir shocks with DSC adjusters.
The cool thing about these is they are the perfect length for a stock power wagon.

Front 883-26-066
compressed 16.01"
Extended 25.49"
travel 9.78"

Rear 883-26-063
compressed 16.5"
extended 27.15"
travel 10.6"


These are the fox equivalent of the kings that Carlie and Thuren spec for their RAMs

 

[RHINO69]

NEW
I found these this morning. I'm sure they were not available just a few weeks ago.

Fox 2.5 remote reservoir shocks with DSC adjusters.
The cool thing about these is they are the perfect length for a stock power wagon.

Front 883-26-066
compressed 16.01"
Extended 25.49"
travel 9.78"

Rear 883-26-063
compressed 16.5"
extended 27.15"
travel 10.6"


These are the fox equivalent of the kings that Carlie and Thuren spec for their RAMs

Going to email thuren and ask them about these, since they aren't advertised on their site. King wait time is so bad right now, I'd gladly take these asap.

 

[Shake N Bake]

Going to email thuren and ask them about these, since they aren't advertised on their site. King wait time is so bad right now, I'd gladly take these asap.

Post up what Thuren says about them. Id take these as well instead of waiting on the Kings.

 

[jadmt]

NEW
I found these this morning. I'm sure they were not available just a few weeks ago.

Fox 2.5 remote reservoir shocks with DSC adjusters.
The cool thing about these is they are the perfect length for a stock power wagon.

Front 883-26-066
compressed 16.01"
Extended 25.49"
travel 9.78"

Rear 883-26-063
compressed 16.5"
extended 27.15"
travel 10.6"


These are the fox equivalent of the kings that Carlie and Thuren spec for their RAMs

stock are 23.25 and 14 5/8 front and 24 15/16 16 7/16 rear so I would want to cycle the suspension before putting them to the test. up front you could bottom out the shocks which kills them and you it would be possible to unseat your front coils if the stock coil free lengh is not long enough in the back you could unseat a coil of free length not long enough. they free length of a stock PW coil might be ok but without actually testing it there is some risk.

 

[RHINO69]

Post up what Thuren says about them. Id take these as well instead of waiting on the Kings.

Thuren said big negative on a Fox option, at the moment. Maybe they are unaware of these? But if these really are an exact match to OEM, that is still no good for after market front springs.

Thuren's exact words; "Negative. We have been trying to get Fox to make these for us for almost 2 years but still have nothing. Sorry."

 

[Trail_Wagon]

I asked my guy over at accutune...

"They were very recently released (maybe a month ago at the earliest?) but we do not currently have them on order.
We would assume about a 6-8 month lead time to get them ordered up"

Thuren is just not staying up to date.
oh well.

 

[Shake N Bake]

Well it was worth a try. At least I have the cheap Fox shocks to hold me over until Kings come around.

 

[jadmt]

Thuren said big negative on a Fox option, at the moment. Maybe they are unaware of these? But if these really are an exact match to OEM, that is still no good for after market front springs.

Thuren's exact words; "Negative. We have been trying to get Fox to make these for us for almost 2 years but still have nothing. Sorry."

they are not an exact match. they are longer extended by over 2" and shorter compressed by about an 1.5", now that might not be an issue but until someone has completely flexed out you won't know.

 

[tchur1]

I just called fox as I am trying to figure out what I am going to put on my truck. They said they are in the process of rolling out a bunch of new performance elite shocks for Ram trucks over the next month and a half or so. Should be more options for all Ram trucks by the end of August.

They also said they are shipping them with new tuning and more adjustability to ride well with a wider range of front/rear springs. It sounds like Thuren said no go but according to what Fox just said they should work with just about anything out of the box and with a wide adjustability range to dial in for driver preferences.

 

[Trail_Wagon]

So I have been seeing all sorts of different numbers for shock lengths on the internet. I foolishly chose to watch a video by shock surplus, in which they measure the power wagon shocks to be 16 ish fully compressed. So when I saw that was approximately the length of the new Fox 2.5 stuff, I thought it was dead on.

But I wanted to know for sure, so this morning I pulled one of the front shocks. And took some accurate measurements.



Front
Extended 23 9/16"
Compressed 14 13/16"
Travel 8 3/4"

I measured from the center of the eyelet...



To the end of the shaft, with the hardware removed.


For the extended length, I measured to where the shaft gets smaller and the washer will ride. For travel I measured the shaft from the shock body, to where the chrome ends.

The goofball from shock surplus needs to learn to use a tape measure. So, to make the shocks I linked work, you would need about 1 1/4" bump stop extensions to stop the shock from tearing things up. If I was going to add 1 1/4 extension, I would lift the truck too to maintain at least factory up travel.

 

[jadmt]

So I have been seeing all sorts of different numbers for shock lengths on the internet. I foolishly chose to watch a video by shock surplus, in which they measure the power wagon shocks to be 16 ish fully compressed. So when I saw that was approximately the length of the new Fox 2.5 stuff, I thought it was dead on.

But I wanted to know for sure, so this morning I pulled one of the front shocks. And took some accurate measurements.

View attachment 41387

Front
Extended 23 9/16"
Compressed 14 13/16"
Travel 8 3/4"

I measured from the center of the eyelet...

View attachment 41388

To the end of the shaft, with the hardware removed.
View attachment 41389

For the extended length, I measured to where the shaft gets smaller and the washer will ride. For travel I measured the shaft from the shock body, to where the chrome ends.

The goofball from shock surplus needs to learn to use a tape measure. So, to make the shocks I linked work, you would need about 1 1/4" bump stop extensions to stop the shock from tearing things up. If I was going to add 1 1/4 extension, I would lift the truck too to maintain at least factory up travel.

the only way to know for sure how much bump stop you would need is to pull the coils and cycle the suspension with the shocks in place.

 

[RHINO69]

So I have been seeing all sorts of different numbers for shock lengths on the internet. I foolishly chose to watch a video by shock surplus, in which they measure the power wagon shocks to be 16 ish fully compressed. So when I saw that was approximately the length of the new Fox 2.5 stuff, I thought it was dead on.

But I wanted to know for sure, so this morning I pulled one of the front shocks. And took some accurate measurements.

View attachment 41387

Front
Extended 23 9/16"
Compressed 14 13/16"
Travel 8 3/4"

I measured from the center of the eyelet...

View attachment 41388

To the end of the shaft, with the hardware removed.
View attachment 41389

For the extended length, I measured to where the shaft gets smaller and the washer will ride. For travel I measured the shaft from the shock body, to where the chrome ends.

The goofball from shock surplus needs to learn to use a tape measure. So, to make the shocks I linked work, you would need about 1 1/4" bump stop extensions to stop the shock from tearing things up. If I was going to add 1 1/4 extension, I would lift the truck too to maintain at least factory up travel.

Very nice. Good info.

 

[Darkone]

I took the numbers in you original post and went to fox’s website and compared them to their chart. It shows the number you listed
883-24-063 as a front shock for 2-3.5” lift.
For 0-1.5” it lists a 883-24-062 and it’s listed extended, collapsed, and shock travel more resemble stock trucks it also gives a 883-24-065 for the rear 0-1.5”lift 2500

 

[HillbillySneaker]

I realize this conversation is from 2022 but this is related info that I couldn’t find anywhere else. I thought it appropriate to add it here.

I just registered here after trying for more than a week to get a straight answer on which Fox shock lengths matched a factory height 2018 power wagon. All of the part numbers I’ll list here are for the Fox 2.0’s.

I talked to Fox first and they recommended part number 985-24-168 for the front and 985-24-169 for the rear. From what I could find on the Internet these were a tad shorter than the factory shocks. The front extended length is 22.280”, collapsed length is 14.650”, and travel is listed as 7.630”. The rear extended length is 24.980”, collapsed is 15.600”, and travel is listed as 9.130”. Shock surplus had the best price on those so I called to ask about an estimated delivery date and to ask why their recommended lift heights for those shocks differed from Fox’s. In the course of conversation I mentioned they were going on a Power Wagon and the guy told me the part numbers I had were too short. He said they tried them on their company power wagon because they were listed for up to a 2” lift on a factory 2500. They wouldn’t let the suspension fully cycle so they went to the next size up from those (for a standard 2500 with 3-4” of lift according to Fox). The part numbers for those are 985-24-204 for the front and 985-24-202 for the rear. Front extended length is 25.470”, collapsed is 15.850” and travel is 9.620”. Rear extended length is 27.240”, collapsed is 17.150”, and travel is 10.090”. It seems as though our power wagons fall somewhere in the middle between the two lengths. When I asked about the coil unseating due to the longer length he told me they’ve jumped that truck and had a wheel off of the ground more times than they could count and it hasn’t happened to them. Based on that information I order the longer ones they recommended. I have a trip quickly approaching and am running out of time to get stuff done so today, since the truck is down waiting on a transmission I installed the longer shocks. It appears as though Fox measures from the center of the eyelet to the bottom of the lowermost bushing washer. That’s the only place I could stick a tape and get the number they list on their website. It appears to hold true for the collapsed length, however, I can’t be 100% sure because I was trying to collapse the shock and measure it by myself. That was no easy task so I had my 3 year old hold the tape for me. If you have kids you understand the possibility of an inaccurate measurement. Hell, if you’ve ever been around a 3 year old for more than fifteen seconds you know what I’m talking about. When my PCM gets back from hptuners this week I will flex the truck out and see what happens. I am cautiously hopeful that shock surplus is right and these will work. I got a verbal assurance they would exchange them if they don’t work out but I likely won’t have time before the trip. If they don’t work out I’ll alter our route to stay off of the fun stuff until I can get the shorter shocker . They doubt they’ll exchange them after a 3,000 mile trip with 300 miles of it off road and I don’t blame them for that. I owned the truck less than a month when I had to spend $6,500 on a transmission so what’s another few hundred dollars?

When I get to a computer I’ll upload some pictures of the shocks side by side with the factory Bilsteins.

 

[HillbillySneaker]

Factory Bilstein vs Fox 985-24-202 (Fox 2.0 for regular 2500 with 3-4” lift).

The next two pictures show where I had to measure from to match up with Fox’s numbers. Measuring from these same two points on the Bilstein netted a difference of approximately 2.25”.


Passenger rear coil with tire suspended. Seeing this makes me think these will be too long once the opposite side is stuffed into the fender well. I will find out within the next week or so.

 

[Chris85xlt]

I realize this conversation is from 2022 but this is related info that I couldn’t find anywhere else. I thought it appropriate to add it here.

I just registered here after trying for more than a week to get a straight answer on which Fox shock lengths matched a factory height 2018 power wagon. All of the part numbers I’ll list here are for the Fox 2.0’s.

I talked to Fox first and they recommended part number 985-24-168 for the front and 985-24-169 for the rear. From what I could find on the Internet these were a tad shorter than the factory shocks. The front extended length is 22.280”, collapsed length is 14.650”, and travel is listed as 7.630”. The rear extended length is 24.980”, collapsed is 15.600”, and travel is listed as 9.130”. Shock surplus had the best price on those so I called to ask about an estimated delivery date and to ask why their recommended lift heights for those shocks differed from Fox’s. In the course of conversation I mentioned they were going on a Power Wagon and the guy told me the part numbers I had were too short. He said they tried them on their company power wagon because they were listed for up to a 2” lift on a factory 2500. They wouldn’t let the suspension fully cycle so they went to the next size up from those (for a standard 2500 with 3-4” of lift according to Fox). The part numbers for those are 985-24-204 for the front and 985-24-202 for the rear. Front extended length is 25.470”, collapsed is 15.850” and travel is 9.620”. Rear extended length is 27.240”, collapsed is 17.150”, and travel is 10.090”. It seems as though our power wagons fall somewhere in the middle between the two lengths. When I asked about the coil unseating due to the longer length he told me they’ve jumped that truck and had a wheel off of the ground more times than they could count and it hasn’t happened to them. Based on that information I order the longer ones they recommended. I have a trip quickly approaching and am running out of time to get stuff done so today, since the truck is down waiting on a transmission I installed the longer shocks. It appears as though Fox measures from the center of the eyelet to the bottom of the lowermost bushing washer. That’s the only place I could stick a tape and get the number they list on their website. It appears to hold true for the collapsed length, however, I can’t be 100% sure because I was trying to collapse the shock and measure it by myself. That was no easy task so I had my 3 year old hold the tape for me. If you have kids you understand the possibility of an inaccurate measurement. Hell, if you’ve ever been around a 3 year old for more than fifteen seconds you know what I’m talking about. When my PCM gets back from hptuners this week I will flex the truck out and see what happens. I am cautiously hopeful that shock surplus is right and these will work. I got a verbal assurance they would exchange them if they don’t work out but I likely won’t have time before the trip. If they don’t work out I’ll alter our route to stay off of the fun stuff until I can get the shorter shocker . They doubt they’ll exchange them after a 3,000 mile trip with 300 miles of it off road and I don’t blame them for that. I owned the truck less than a month when I had to spend $6,500 on a transmission so what’s another few hundred dollars?

When I get to a computer I’ll upload some pictures of the shocks side by side with the factory Bilsteins.

Have you thought about adding a 1 or 1.5" coil lift spacer to help keep the coils from unseating when using the longer Fox shocks?

I was in the same dilemma but ended up buying myself a new Ebike haha. Sorry im no help.

 

[HillbillySneaker]

Have you thought about adding a 1 or 1.5" coil lift spacer to help keep the coils from unseating when using the longer Fox shocks?

I was in the same dilemma but ended up buying myself a new Ebike haha. Sorry im no help.

I’ve thought about it but I’m not sure if that the right thing to do. This is my first solid axle truck so honestly, I haven’t figured out if that’s a fix for the problem or if that’s just moving the problem to another spot in the suspension.

 

[Soapy]

You could add limiting straps if you are worried about it over flexing and having the spring unseat.

 

[johanh13]

Thanks for posting those numbers, seems Carli, Thuren, and CJC don't want to publish any numbers! I have asked them all for spring rates and shock lengths and get a version of this "that is proprietary information we do not publish".
Therefore, this is very valuable information to the consumer, THANKS
BTW, I have a set of Carli Kings from CJC for the 2.5 levelling kit (my Ram had bilsteins stock)
Attached are the photos with measurements of my stock bilsteins (the Kings are exact match for the rear)

 

[Soapy]

I went with Bilstein 5160s and stock springs since the 5160s handle vehicles with heavy loads better almost like adding stiffer springs. They do not ride as soft initially but control the loads much better overall than the stock Bilsteins did. No wallowy feel like having too soft of springs.