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Carli suspension info

I'm guessing the e click reservoirs use similar technology to fox DSC manual adjusters. Accutune will add Fox DSC to King shocks for a fee, so it's likely not a big deal. However, at least with fox DSC adjusters, they can only increase damping...they can't decrease it below baseline valving. You may need to re valve the pin top to a lighter tune so they can be softer when the e click dictates it.
 
sedonaexpeditionvehicles said:
Now you have had your foxes and sumo springs for a bit .. what do you think?
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Sumos + stock shocks:
Didn’t get to do anything other than street driving with this setup. Felt a bit stiffer over small bumps (makes sense, as it was slightly increasing the spring rate essentially), but a bit more controlled over medium to large bumps. Seemed to be slightly smoother over concrete highways that make the truck bounce like crazy.

Fox shocks: Again, haven’t off-roaded with them other than some dirt roads.
Softer and smoother over low speed bumps, I was impressed on the first drive around the neighborhood. But then on the highway, High speed medium bumps (highway expansion gaps) seem a bit harsher. Also, it Feels a bit less controlled (extra sway before settling down) going over big whoops on the highway. Moderate improvement on the concrete highway bounce. On the dirt it seemed super smooth, I haven’t driven that road on the stock setup so I’m not sure how bad the washboard was, but it seemed to soak the washboard up really well. Perhaps that is where I really will see the biggest improvement, need to go to some nasty washboard roads I know and have driven before.

This could all be in my head. Maybe I was expecting a dramatic change and that’s why it doesn’t feel like a huge difference. I wish I could drive the same roads back to back with stock vs Fox to compare.
 
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sedonaexpeditionvehicles said:
I'm guessing the e click reservoirs use similar technology to fox DSC manual adjusters. Accutune will add Fox DSC to King shocks for a fee, so it's likely not a big deal. However, at least with fox DSC adjusters, they can only increase damping...they can't decrease it below baseline valving. You may need to re valve the pin top to a lighter tune so they can be softer when the e click dictates it.
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Yeah, the manual adjustment stuff has been around forever. I've had it in many vehicles. Good point about not being able to go below the baseline valving, but I would think most of the valving is done in the reservoir and not the shock body. That's why the adjusters are mounted on the reservoir. In the case of the e-click add-on reservoirs, you would be replacing the king reservoirs (valving).
 
Bump steer is a byproduct of a solid axle truck with a track bar.

When you hit a bump, the axle moves up. The trackbar is a fixed length. The axle shifts to the side
 
AnthonyD1978 said:
Yeah, the manual adjustment stuff has been around forever. I've had it in many vehicles. Good point about not being able to go below the baseline valving, but I would think most of the valving is done in the reservoir and not the shock body. That's why the adjusters are mounted on the reservoir. In the case of the e-click add-on reservoirs, you would be replacing the king reservoirs (valving).
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There is no valveing in the resivour. It's just an expansion chamber for the oil as it heats up. There is a solid piston in the resivour body. Oil on one side, nitrogen on the other.
You can adjust the nitrogen pressure to fine tune the shocks. But the main tuning is done with the shim stacks in the shock.
 
Rockcrawlerdude said:
Bump steer is a byproduct of a solid axle truck with a track bar.

When you hit a bump, the axle moves up. The trackbar is a fixed length. The axle shifts to the side
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Yea, I understand that. But there are certain drag links that are made to help combat the bump steer.
I had a bad bump steer in my K5 Blazer after I did cross over steering to it.
 
Crusty old shellback said:
Yea, I understand that. But there are certain drag links that are made to help combat the bump steer.
I had a bad bump steer in my K5 Blazer after I did cross over steering to it.
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Jeep and maybe others tried an inverted Y drag link / tie rod combination and deleted the wheel to wheel tie rod setup from the YJ when they built the XJ. That setup combats bump steer a little in stock form but that setup has its own issues when you start lifting and changing geometry.
 
Crusty old shellback said:
There is no valveing in the resivour. It's just an expansion chamber for the oil as it heats up. There is a solid piston in the resivour body. Oil on one side, nitrogen on the other.
You can adjust the nitrogen pressure to fine tune the shocks. But the main tuning is done with the shim stacks in the shock.
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This is all accurate, I'll only add.
The DSC or any adjuster controls the flow into reservoir as the piston moves into the main shock body. The oil must be displaced into the reservoir, because of the volume or space the piston takes up. If there is no restriction, some of the oil will flow into the reservoir instead of going through the main valve shims. If you restrict that flow into the reservoir, more oil is forced through the shims, firming the tune.
 
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Crusty old shellback said:
Yea, I understand that. But there are certain drag links that are made to help combat the bump steer.
I had a bad bump steer in my K5 Blazer after I did cross over steering to it.
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Was your blazer linked or leaf sprung up front?

Some leaf spring set ups have track bars but they can be removed
 
Crusty old shellback said:
Mine was Deaver leafs with King shocks. 12" of travel. No track bar. No sway bar.
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Well then of course you had bump steer with crossover steering. Axle moves up, drag link doesn’t change length so the tires get pushed to the right. Drag link to tie rod end to tie rod end to pitman arm makes a triangle.

There is a reason track bars and drag links are supposed to be as close to parallel as possible. Track bar shifts the axle with the drag link. You still get bump steer either way with a steering box mounted on the frame and a live axle
 
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I had a straight bar. From my reading, I could swap in a basically Z bar and it would have helped. Never got around to doing that before I sold it.
 
Still nothing about the Carlie e click, but I did catch this on Instagram ... The universal kit on an lj. Confirmed it replaces the reservoir of any shock. Coil over, bypass, smoothie, whatever, and utilizes the automatic system. Sounds like this is a prototype for this guy to make a video about.


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Harry Wagner on Instagram: "I went down to @sdiracing this weekend to add their universal E-Clik system to my LJ. @kolby_b gave up his weekend to handle the install and I couldn’t be happier. My Jeep works well on the trail but has a lot of body roll

633 likes, 40 comments - harrysituations on March 21, 2022: "I went down to @sdiracing this weekend to add their universal E-Clik system to my LJ. @kolby_b gave up his weekend to handle the install ...".
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Trail_Wagon said:
Still nothing about the Carlie e click, but I did catch this on Instagram ... The universal kit on an lj. Confirmed it replaces the reservoir of any shock. Coil over, bypass, smoothie, whatever, and utilizes the automatic system. Sounds like this is a prototype for this guy to make a video about.


www.instagram.com

Harry Wagner on Instagram: "I went down to @sdiracing this weekend to add their universal E-Clik system to my LJ. @kolby_b gave up his weekend to handle the install and I couldn’t be happier. My Jeep works well on the trail but has a lot of body roll

633 likes, 40 comments - harrysituations on March 21, 2022: "I went down to @sdiracing this weekend to add their universal E-Clik system to my LJ. @kolby_b gave up his weekend to handle the install ...".
www.instagram.com www.instagram.com
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There is a Carli E-Venture that is made for Ford HD trucks. Check it out. https://www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/carli-e-venture
 
Put in my order for a Carli Pintop system at CJC. They suggested not replacing the radius arms. Looks like my install date is sometime in Sept.
 
waveslayer said:
Baja HQ will do the install within 2 weeks or so. CJC was several months out

My wife thinks I only have 3 guns
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I'm not familiar with Baja HQ. I'll give them a call on Monday. From the looks of their website they seem to mainly service Ford products.
 
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