Ahhhhhhhhh that's the age ole question we've all been trying to figure out. I've found several cameras that are good but apparently the big 3 out there have there 5 pin to 12 pin cable harness locked in to all them self. As of now, no one has been able to find an aftermarket an affordable harness out there. Obviously if money is no option, you can buy the ram pkg for 500 then buy a better camera but then you have allot in to the set up.
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TPMS (TIS) sensors for trailer (SOLVED - see 1st post) aka TTPMS - Trailer TPMS
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Well if it's just easier to go with their crappy cam, how bad could it be as long as it shows something back there.
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Let's just hope an after-market supplier will make something compatible soon but I won't hold my breath.
Would be really nice to get a PN for just the cable harness. I can buy the Molex connectors and make my own adapter to use with a better camera. I haven't yet found the source for the 12-pin connector. If I at least had a part number of the connector, I could probably locate it.
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That's a standard camera extension cable. I have one on my SxS.
The cable that plug right into the RAM is a 12 pins. Not the same.
Yah i know that. Thats the cable that would go from camera to whatever kind of 5 to 12 pin increaser that anyone could find, I talked to 3 electronics shops that build all kinds of connections an they all told me they don't have the rights to produce that configuration.
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gotcha
I'd be happy with just the plug end part number to perhaps track down the source. I believe the right to repair act in just about every state prevents the mfr from restricting those parts sales. If they offer it as a repair part to a dealer, then it should be available to purchase. Tesla tried that and ended up getting spanked for it.
I've found all the cables and plugs you've shown Rich. They are either panel mount commercial, UK RV plugs, or the one nice double ended 12-pin cable is a video camera cable standard but the shrouds on the ends are not compatible with the push in connector used on the trucks.
The only problem with the Ford setup as I see it, is that their TTPMS is part of the cable and locates the TTPMS module in the trailer. RAM puts the TTPMS sensor behind the bumper (and one rumored to be in the cab?).
I have the 12-pin body harness pinout for the Ford. Not sure yet if it's going to be the same for RAM, but one would expect they have the same source and it's been done to some standard. I guess I'll find out when I get my truck and start putting a meter to it. I'll ID the power and grounds first, then work out the Video + and - for each of the two feeds.
It's not that hard to figure out, I just need the dang 12-pin plug. I've been getting by without a camera since I sold my 2004 5th and the wireless cams are useless to me due to their limited vertical viewing angle. I need to see my hitch or backing up to the boat, and over the boat (preferably close to the horizon). Only the 150* diagonal view cams do that. I had a dang 16 year old Audiovox (?) on my old trailer that worked great except it sucked in low light and couldn't handle high lux contrast (shade/sunlight) in the same image well.
My preference is to use a good commercial Sony UCCD camera but unfortunately the RAM setup doesn't also offer sound. Then again, the cameras that have sound give up some video performance (again, view angles) so I can do without the sound. That's what FRS/GMRS (or chicom knock off's) are for.
Don't they look at what's available on the market when they design this stuff?
I believe that Ford bed setup is aftermarket.
Does the RAM have the 12-pin in the bed as well? That's another question that's gone unanswered. Not cool if they didn't replicate that 2-pin in the bed also.
I requested from my dealer that the factory put the 2 plug setup in the bed not on the bumper an he said they have no control over how they build them. But he thought they were on the bumper. But i will give that one to ford, i like that better in the bed so the cable isnt dragging back an forth across your tailgate. I agree with brutal, i would settle for the dang plug in end, the rest would be easy breezy to do. All ready got a better cam saved in my cart. There's no doubt in my mind they will only be able to keep those after market manufacturers at bay for so long.
I looked at that image again, and it might be a factory Ford setup as it doesn't look the same as the aftermarket (nichols manufacturing) one.
He does sell a Ford harness only, and extensions, and a bunch of other related items. I have a feeling when this info starts to spread he might be getting awful busy.
I just want this:
And this: (I can make this one)
Or this:
To work with this:
