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2022 Ram HD Builds and orders - Post and discuss your TRUCK order here! ** NEW USERS READ POST #1 **

AFF said:
If a guy orders a truck sept 1st whats a realistic date for it to show up a a dealer. Sometime in Oct, Nov, Dec?
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Considering a majority of members have ordered trucks from as early as May still in D status, I’d say Jan or Feb. Of course that probably depends on what you order.
 
Just sent a Big Horn 3500 build with the Safety Group over to Sandi for a price. She says as of last week all the safety and trailer tech package options have been dropped for new orders on trims below Laramie due to the chip shortages.... so now I've got to decide if I'm going to strip it down to a basic Tradesman or pony up on a Laramie..... decisions decisions.... on the bright side maybe that'll cause your builds to go faster....
 
First post here so apologies if this is not the correct place, point me in the right direction if I am off here.

I am planning to place an order for a new truck in the next month or so here. I regularly pull about 10-12k pounds. I have heard all of the horror stories about the 68 RFE so I am considering pulling the trigger on a 3500 w/ the HO Cummins and the ASIN. Long term reliability being the main motivator here, is that a good call? Or unnecessary and the 2500 w/ SO Cummins and 68RFE will be fine for 200k plus miles?

Appreciate any input!
 
AFF said:
If a guy orders a truck sept 1st whats a realistic date for it to show up a a dealer. Sometime in Oct, Nov, Dec?
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From order to build to delivery is all a guessing game. The orders are prioritized by type of truck, customer order vs dealer order. Customer orders are priority one. The D status on the order form from the dealer indicates they order is accepted and all the components needed for the build are in the factory. D1 Status means it is in line for production. People have trucks in build complete status that have been sitting at the factory in Mexico because they cannot ship them out. Order to completion is about 5 weeks... Completion to delivery to your dealership can take up to 8 ADDITIONAL weeks.. So, average time is 12 - 16 weeks order to delivery. Dealerships have ZERO control over this and really are just playing a guessing game. I was told by my dealer, we will call you when it shows up in the lot... Most likely around Thanksgiving.... and it was ordered the end of July.
 
tchur1 said:
First post here so apologies if this is not the correct place, point me in the right direction if I am off here.

I am planning to place an order for a new truck in the next month or so here. I regularly pull about 10-12k pounds. I have heard all of the horror stories about the 68 RFE so I am considering pulling the trigger on a 3500 w/ the HO Cummins and the ASIN. Long term reliability being the main motivator here, is that a good call? Or unnecessary and the 2500 w/ SO Cummins and 68RFE will be fine for 200k plus miles?

Appreciate any input!
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Is your plan to bumper pull that load, or gooseneck/5th wheel? If it was me, I'd get an SRW 3500. More payload, minimal differences, and the HO/AISIN combo should keep you in business for a long time.
 
tchur1 said:
First post here so apologies if this is not the correct place, point me in the right direction if I am off here.

I am planning to place an order for a new truck in the next month or so here. I regularly pull about 10-12k pounds. I have heard all of the horror stories about the 68 RFE so I am considering pulling the trigger on a 3500 w/ the HO Cummins and the ASIN. Long term reliability being the main motivator here, is that a good call? Or unnecessary and the 2500 w/ SO Cummins and 68RFE will be fine for 200k plus miles?

Appreciate any input!
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Well, the Aisin transmission has had its issues. Additionally it requires much more maintenance than the 68RFE.. You need fluid changes every 30k and fluid filter changes every 60k on the Aisin. Its has a different shift profile which some folks do not care for. You are over buying getting the HO If you are only pulling 10 -12k.... The HO is designed to pull HEAVY loads in the high teens to upwards of 37,000 lbs. My dealer told a friend of mine to NOT buy the HO as he would not work it hard enough and THAT tends to cause engine issues down the road.... get the 2500 SO with 68 RFE transmission.
 
tchur1 said:
First post here so apologies if this is not the correct place, point me in the right direction if I am off here.

I am planning to place an order for a new truck in the next month or so here. I regularly pull about 10-12k pounds. I have heard all of the horror stories about the 68 RFE so I am considering pulling the trigger on a 3500 w/ the HO Cummins and the ASIN. Long term reliability being the main motivator here, is that a good call? Or unnecessary and the 2500 w/ SO Cummins and 68RFE will be fine for 200k plus miles?

Appreciate any input!
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I was in the same boat as you, I regularly pull about the same weight as you. My transmission went out in my 06 dodge Cummins with the horses in tow about 300 miles from home. I decided the extra 3k for the more stout transmission and HO cummins gives me more headroom for longevity. My 06 had 210k on it before it decided to give up.
 
agtcovert said:
Is your plan to bumper pull that load, or gooseneck/5th wheel? If it was me, I'd get an SRW 3500. More payload, minimal differences, and the HO/AISIN combo should keep you in business for a long time.
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js4024 said:
Well, the Aisin transmission has had its issues. Additionally it requires much more maintenance than the 68RFE.. You need fluid changes every 30k and fluid filter changes every 60k on the Aisin. Its has a different shift profile which some folks do not care for. You are over buying getting the HO If you are only pulling 10 -12k.... The HO is designed to pull HEAVY loads in the high teens to upwards of 37,000 lbs. My dealer told a friend of mine to NOT buy the HO as he would not work it hard enough and THAT tends to cause engine issues down the road.... get the 2500 SO with 68 RFE transmission.
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Piston said:
I was in the same boat as you, I regularly pull about the same weight as you. My transmission went out in my 06 dodge Cummins with the horses in tow about 300 miles from home. I decided the extra 3k for the more stout transmission and HO cummins gives me more headroom for longevity. My 06 had 210k on it before it decided to give up.
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Thank you for all the input. Yes I bumper pull this amount.

I know its overkill for the weight but I am also looking for longevity here. I wont ever tow more than probably 15k so the power isnt the issue, just looking for reliability of the transmission.

This will also be my daily when I am not towing. I am putting the ASIN under more wear driving without towing?
 
Clevy4949 said:
I ordered from Robert at landers. I agreed to MSRP - 1000$. I get that guys are getting 9% under. But On my 2016 duramax trade they gave me basically what I paid for it new in 2016.
the price paid is high but the trade is crazy. On total I am Pleased.
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Same for me. I know some on here are getting 8-10k off. My dealer agreed to a $4k discount off the MSRP price once it gets here. I'm good with that because they already bought my 2016 Ram 2500 from me for more than it was worth. It booked for $48k trade-in and they gave me $53k for it.
 
tchur1 said:
Thank you for all the input. Yes I bumper pull this amount.

I know its overkill for the weight but I am also looking for longevity here. I wont ever tow more than probably 15k so the power isnt the issue, just looking for reliability of the transmission.

This will also be my daily when I am not towing. I am putting the ASIN under more wear driving without towing?
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I don't know you'd be causing any harm to something by *not* putting load on it, that doesn't make much sense to me. It's more, I think, a matter of what you want from the driving characteristics of the truck. You can do a 3500 with the SO and 68RFE, might be a nice combo for you. These trucks are so expensive, I'd rather get more than I need once, than not enough. (Ask me how I know...) :)

You can also do a couple upgrades (deeper trans pan and valve body) on a 68 and be in good shape, from what I understand.
 
tchur1 said:
Thank you for all the input. Yes I bumper pull this amount.

I know its overkill for the weight but I am also looking for longevity here. I wont ever tow more than probably 15k so the power isnt the issue, just looking for reliability of the transmission.

This will also be my daily when I am not towing. I am putting the ASIN under more wear driving without towing?
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Unless you're dead set in getting a diesel and there's no talking you out of it, it might make more since to get the 6.4 gasser. Still plenty of power to pull the weight you're talking of and you won't hurt it by not working it hard enough.

If you must go diesel, get the standard output and 68rfe (they're better than they used to be) and PLEASE get the 3500. You'll be out of payload super quick if you put the diesel in the 2500.
 
AFF said:
If a guy orders a truck sept 1st whats a realistic date for it to show up a a dealer. Sometime in Oct, Nov, Dec?
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agtcovert said:
I don't know you'd be causing any harm to something by *not* putting load on it, that doesn't make much sense to me. It's more, I think, a matter of what you want from the driving characteristics of the truck. You can do a 3500 with the SO and 68RFE, might be a nice combo for you. These trucks are so expensive, I'd rather get more than I need once, than not enough. (Ask me how I know...) :)

You can also do a couple upgrades (deeper trans pan and valve body) on a 68 and be in good shape, from what I understand.
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Just a heads up, you cannot order a 3500 HD WITHOUT the HO option. There is no standard output option available for the 3500's. Reason is they want to keep the SO Cummins for the 2500's.
 
js4024 said:
Just a heads up, you cannot order a 3500 HD WITHOUT the HO option. There is no standard output option available for the 3500's. Reason is they want to keep the SO Cummins for the 2500's.
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Is this a new policy you’ve heard? Here’s a 3500 SO that was built 4 days ago-
That one has a window sticker, and is also not a sold order, so the theory that sold orders get priority is out the window.
 
js4024 said:
Just a heads up, you cannot order a 3500 HD WITHOUT the HO option. There is no standard output option available for the 3500's. Reason is they want to keep the SO Cummins for the 2500's.
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This isn't correct. My buddy ordered a SRW 3500 with SO last Friday. Got their VIN today.
 
agtcovert said:
I don't know you'd be causing any harm to something by *not* putting load on it, that doesn't make much sense to me. It's more, I think, a matter of what you want from the driving characteristics of the truck. You can do a 3500 with the SO and 68RFE, might be a nice combo for you. These trucks are so expensive, I'd rather get more than I need once, than not enough. (Ask me how I know...) :)

You can also do a couple upgrades (deeper trans pan and valve body) on a 68 and be in good shape, from what I understand.
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So the issue arises about the daily driver.. Hey first off, its a free country, I know guys that lay down 80K on the biggest baddest truck out there and it is a parking lot princess. So be it, it is your choice, but.. From experience with diesel engines over numerous years, the ones that run the best, have the least amount of issues, go through normal "regen" sequences are the ones moving something heavy down the road. You develop a lot of emission crud when the engine doesn't work hard enough go get it hot and things never quiet get to the "normal" operating temperatures. Turbo's get carboned up and the EGR doesn't function well, so you wind up having to get that scrapped out now and then. The best diesel's get the proverbial piss ran out of the hauling loads. But again, your choice, your money. For a 10 - 12k trailer, the SO Cummins is more than sufficient, to save even more get the 6.4l Hemi.. will pull that just find. For the SO cummins add in about 9500.00 to the price tag, for the HO cummins add in about 13,000.
 
AF_Hemi said:
Unless you're dead set in getting a diesel and there's no talking you out of it, it might make more since to get the 6.4 gasser. Still plenty of power to pull the weight you're talking of and you won't hurt it by not working it hard enough.

If you must go diesel, get the standard output and 68rfe (they're better than they used to be) and PLEASE get the 3500. You'll be out of payload super quick if you put the diesel in the 2500.
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I am pretty dead set on the diesel. Current truck is a gasser and leaves a lot to be desired when towing. I live at about 6500 feet elevation and tow over mountain passes frequently so the exhaust break on the diesel is a large part of my decision.

Good input on the 2500 vs 3500 for payload. I was going back and forth but am definitely now set on the 3500. Just a matter of ASIN or 68 RFE.
 
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