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Toyo or Michelin on my 2019 RAM 3500 Tradesman Dually

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Will be staying with the stock tires of 235/80R17. Looking at Toyo and Michelin tires. I usually tow a 12K toy hauler. But do get calls to haul a friends equipment trailer that weighs 24K every couple months.
I do not do off road. So I am looking for road tires. Got 35K on the stock tires.
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Thoughts on these tires? I will not run Firestone as I had issues wit them on my 2500 while under load.
 
Michelins LTX- T 2 I tow 15 k . I dumped the Crapstones at 25 k . I have right a 59 k 75% is towing and I still have plenty of tread left . hoping to get 40 k .Time will tell .
 
ltx between those options... I've been tempted to try the dura grappler.

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Is nobody going to say how much of a Grandpa look those Michelins have, said this before about them, Im sure they are a great tire but vanity wise I can't do it.
Edit: Maybe a work truck .
 
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unclelala said:
Is nobody going to say how much of a Grandpa look those Michelins have, said this before about them, Im sure they are a great tire but vanity wise I can't do it.
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I have always been a function over form guy. While most of my friends had "cool looking seats" on their motorcycles, I had a seat that kept me comfortable for hundreds of miles.
And as far as I know, Michelin is still a top tier brand. But the Toyo has the deepest tread and tend to last longer as a result.
 
Truly can't go wrong with the Michelins on a tow pig.

That said, hit up gsbrockman over on cumminsfoum. He's a hotshotter and could give a superb recommendation I'm sure.

I think he may have joined here, but not using the same member name. He's very active over there.
 
RV_Goose said:
I have always been a function over form guy. While most of my friends had "cool looking seats" on their motorcycles, I had a seat that kept me comfortable for hundreds of miles.
And as far as I know, Michelin is still a top tier brand. But the Toyo has the deepest tread and tend to last longer as a result.
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Some of the boys here are not big Toyo fans but I've had my Toyo AT3's now for 2 years and put approx. 10,000 miles on them with 2 rotations and so far I have no complaints, I tow my 5th wheel about 12 times a year in summer and do occasional driving in the winter. They tow well and are not showing any alarming wear and are very good in the Ontario snowy and slushy roads. Using them on a work truck year round, I couldn't tell ya but for me I'm getting my monies worth.
 
unclelala said:
Some of the boys here are not big Toyo fans but I've had my Toyo AT3's now for 2 years and put approx. 10,000 miles on them with 2 rotations and so far I have no complaints, I tow my 5th wheel about 12 times a year in summer and do occasional driving in the winter. They tow well and are not showing any alarming wear and are very good in the Ontario snowy and slushy roads. Using them on a work truck year round, I couldn't tell ya but for me I'm getting my monies worth.
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On my 2500 RAM diesel, I put on Michelin tires and they wore well and handled the load of my 5th wheel which was at 90% capacity for the truck. I got a coupon for Firestone tires so I decided to try them. Those tires at 80 PSI heated up and increased the temp to where the TPMS read **. I have friends that were hot shot truckers and liked the Toyo tires. Now the Toyo are about the same cost as Michelin's. Hence the debate. Pricing the two now online.
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I am biased towards Michelin because my dad worked for Michelin in the 70s. Back then they were the best radials available.
 
My truck has the Michelins and I really like them. Quiet with a really nice ride. I will most likely put them on again when these wear out.
 
I have had issues with Michelin sidewalls dry rot. Going with Toyos this time. Truck is a pavement princess and never sees snow so went with the highway tread. BTW, the Nexens are junk. Just had a belt break on the front with only about 23K on them.
 
Between those two options Michelin hand down.

elephantrider said:
between those options... I've been tempted to try the dura grappler.

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My experience with these is they wore like hot butter on dads 06, he went thru two sets in relatively few miles on 285/75R17’s. The didn’t wear as fast as the Toyo’s we’ve ran thou. Both Nitto and Toyo aren’t in our future.
 
AH64ID said:
Between those two options Michelin hand down.



My experience with these is they wore like hot butter on dads 06, he went thru two sets in relatively few miles on 285/75R17’s. The didn’t wear as fast as the Toyo’s we’ve ran thou. Both Nitto and Toyo aren’t in our future.
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I have six new Toyos waiting for me when I get back home. Having them road force balanced as well. Anything is better than the Nexens. Friend of mine who worked in a tire store for many years recommended the Toyos. They sold most brands. Said they found side wall dry rot issues with the Michelins. At least in the LT tires. Will report back if the Toyos don't work out.

I had Michelins on my 2003 dually and they dry rotted on the inside sidewalls. All did the same thing. I would have thought that the outside would have gone first due to the sun exposure. The outside looked fine and I only found the cracks when I rotated them. You could see the fabric through the cracks.
 
AH64ID said:
Between those two options Michelin hand down.



My experience with these is they wore like hot butter on dads 06, he went thru two sets in relatively few miles on 285/75R17’s. The didn’t wear as fast as the Toyo’s we’ve ran thou. Both Nitto and Toyo aren’t in our future.
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I went through the Toyo AT2s way too fast for my liking on my 05!
 
Dry rot can happen with any tires exposed to UV rays . If you don't move the tires enough the chemicals within the rubber compound can’t serve their intended purpose of keeping the rubber from cracking or rotting . Cover your tires if exposed to the sun for extended periods without moving . Had Michelins forever on class 8 trucks , pickups and cars never experienced anything negative .
 
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Dry rot can happen with any tires exposed to UV rays . If you don't move the tires enough the chemicals within the rubber compound can’t serve their intended purpose of keeping the rubber from cracking or rotting . Cover your tires if exposed to the sun for extended periods without moving . Had Michelins forever on class 8 trucks , pickups and cars never experienced anything negative .
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Also don’t use tire shine products
 
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