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So what are my actual numbers?

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Was curious tonight about what my tow numbers were exactly for my 19 2500 cclb 6.4 big horn. With 3.73 rear. Ram site gives two different numbers based on two different variations of how they specify the 6.4. One “v8 heavy-duty” the other “heavy-duty v8”
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We have a thread on this that explains it pretty well.

To start with the configurator is wrong for payload, and Max tow is figured with 300 lbs for passenger and 70 to 150 for hitching equipment.

The configurator is only for a configuration.

That said. I have no idea why they are stating the Heavy Duty V8 2 ways.

Very odd
 
Looking at it a few times, it seems the difference for towing is the difference between 3.73 and 4.10, even though 3.73 is selected for both.

Also odd is payload changing as it doesn't from ratio to ratio.

Very odd.
 
If you want to get your Max Tow. Get the payload number off of your tire and loading sticker off of your driver's door jamb.

Subtract it from 10000lbs. That gives you your base weight.
Then with the 3.73 gears your GCWR will be 21500. This is what your truck, all its contents, your trailer and all its contents can weigh.

Max tow is rated at 14220, but that is saying you will only have 450 lbs max in the truck.

I think you will get the idea how it isn't a real number, just a starting point.
 
DevilDodge said:
If you want to get your Max Tow. Get the payload number off of your tire and loading sticker off of your driver's door jamb.

Subtract it from 10000lbs. That gives you your base weight.
Then with the 3.73 gears your GCWR will be 21500. This is what your truck, all its contents, your trailer and all its contents can weigh.

Max tow is rated at 14220, but that is saying you will only have 450 lbs max in the truck.

I think you will get the idea how it isn't a real number, just a starting point.
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Great explanation. I had decent handle on the payload sticker number and what that gave me. Guess I was mostly looking for that 21500 number along with the 14220 you provided.

I’m not too worried about the numbers as my 5th wheel gvwr is 10k and that’s the most I ever pull. Just nice to have the numbers to keep in mind. So loaded correctly I’ll have about 2k pin weight which leaves me about 1k payload for passengers toolbox, hitch etc.

I’ll have to wait til spring to get it all on a cat scale and I’ll know exactly where I’m at! Even if it is mostly just out of curiosity at this point.
 
The towing guide is not your real numbers. It is based on a configuration.

The only numbers concrete are GVWR and GCWR. Any payload or max towing number is not specific to the truck.

1500 specs are way off if you buy a higher trim.

2500 specs on higher trim is closer.

3500 is the closest, but still not going to be your trucks specific numbers.

And remember, the towing "max" is based on 300 lbs for driver AND passenger, and 70 to 150lbs for hitching equipment.
 
AKDoug said:
Find the section where you type in your VIN.. that will give you the real numbers. https://www.ramtrucks.com/towing-guide.html click on "look up my vehicle"
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i tried this on our 2019 1500 ... way off ... as was the build sheet to window sticker
then when we got the 2019 2500 did it again .. way off as was the build sheet to window sticker
guess they knew i was buying these two trks out of the dealer stock
 
slimchance said:
i tried this on our 2019 1500 ... way off ... as was the build sheet to window sticker
then when we got the 2019 2500 did it again .. way off as was the build sheet to window sticker
guess they knew i was buying these two trks out of the dealer stock
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Mine was super close. 3500 CC LB 4x4 Tradesman. I've added running boards to my truck (about 80lbs, I weight 230#, and I had a full tank of fuel 200#) my truck scales at 7850 with all that.. GVWR is 11800... leaving 3950# of payload. Entering my VIN on the website says I have a max payload of 4420. Take away that 510# of person, fuel and running boards and you end up at 3910#.. that's pretty dang close.
 
What does your door jamb sticker say your payload is? The fuel is figured in to payload. The 3500 configurator is the closest one as I stated above.

AKDoug said:
Mine was super close. 3500 CC LB 4x4 Tradesman. I've added running boards to my truck (about 80lbs, I weight 230#, and I had a full tank of fuel 200#) my truck scales at 7850 with all that.. GVWR is 11800... leaving 3950# of payload. Entering my VIN on the website says I have a max payload of 4420. Take away that 510# of person, fuel and running boards and you end up at 3910#.. that's pretty dang close.
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So if your truck scales at 7850 with you and running boards...that means if your guesstimate is correct your base weight is 7540.

You say you have a crew cab long bed. What engine? There is no 11800 GVWR for a Crew 8 footbed.

Looking at your other posts I am guessing your GVWR would be 12300 with HO diesel and 8 foot bed.
It also says your base weight should be 7877. So it couldn't be less than that with you in it and added steps. So is your quote of a scale weight an actual weigh with you in the truck, or did you get that number from the page and your scale weight would be 8187.

Very confused by this.

Let me know the answers please.
 
DevilDodge said:
That said. I have no idea why they are stating the Heavy Duty V8 2 ways.
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This kinda thing was going on a decade ago when the Eagle Hemi was introduced. One was a VCT (variable cam timing) engine and the other was a VVT (variable valve timing) engine. Even the service manual for the 09 DS trucks made the distinction. The reality was that there was no difference between the engines, only the labelling. That didn't stop folks from arguing for yrs that one was better than the other etc etc...
 
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